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As the U.S. prepares for an extravagant celebration of its founding principles, fewer Americans see their country as exceptional, a new poll finds.

The survey from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research highlights many Americans’ feeling of unease over the future of its representative government — particularly among young people. It presents a jarring contrast as communities around the country commemorate the nation’s 250th anniversary. 

Only about one-quarter of Americans say the U.S. stands above all other countries in the world, the new poll found, while 44% say it’s one of the greatest countries in the world, along with some others. About 3 in 10 say there are better countries than the U.S., an increase from 19% in an AP-NORC poll conducted in June 2016.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 81 points 1 month ago (3 children)

About 3 in 10 say there are better countries than the U.S

7 in 10 are still blinded by the propaganda then.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

I mean… At least a couple of those seven could be thinking they’re all fucked. That’s how I feel, even the countries I used to think about fleeing to are all being bullshit right now. Whether it’s the EU’s continued infatuation with chat control, or Brexit, or whatever else is going on. Several countries right now seem like they’re only about five or 10 years behind the United States in so far as enshitifying goes.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago

Some of us might see it as exceptionally shitty or at least exceptionally captured by corporate interests.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Americans are routinely terrorized by the very thought of moving to a foreign country. Every other place on Earth is wracked with crime, plagued with poverty, ruined by pollution, and obliterated by war. Fortress America is the only Safe Space for white people. And even within Fortress America, you need to be holed up in some exurban Walled Garden that's surrounded by battalions of the most heavily armed police imaginable.

My father-in-law traveled to Zhuhai, China (just outside Macau) a few years ago. He was flabbergasted at how clean and safe and easy to get around a foreign country could be. He'd been prepared to hike ten miles a day between shitty bus stops. He'd left everything personally valuable to him behind, because he was convinced it would all get confiscated or stolen. He dressed almost entirely in flannel, because he was afraid looking to affluent would get him mugged. He even packed a bunch of dried food, for fear he wouldn't find anything to eat for days at a time. Ended up in a city that could have doubled as San Francisco. The worst experience he had was people insisting they let him take a picture together (he's a tall round guy with a white beard and people kept calling him "Santa").

I've had this experience so frequently with folks who have traveled. We go to Mexico City. We go to Seoul, South Korea. We go to Turkiye and Greece. We go to Moracco. We go to Buenos Aires. Even London and Paris. Everyone thinks we're going to die. We send them pictures. We tell stories. Nobody in the states believes it, until they get dragged out of their hidey holes to see it for themselves.

The American Brain is absolutely cooked.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Stop tolerating the right, for starters. They tried to overthrow the government in the Civil War and then everyone just stopped and let them slink back into society like it never happened instead of rounding them up and executing them for treason. Hundreds of years later, surprise, they’re strong again and back at it. Will they learn from the past this time? Clearly not.

[–] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I think what mount actually be effective would be to have a 'January 6th Re-enactment' event. You basically gaslight the fuck out of Republicans and act like the j6 insurrection was a peaceful protest. Then have as many people show up as possible dressed in pro Trump shit with face coverings, only this time, we do what they actually intended to do with j6, which is overthrow the government.

Like what are they gonna do? Freak out because j6 was a violent act of treason? Because it's just a re-enactment of what repubs claim was a peaceful demonstration.

Also don't actually announce the event in advance, just show up unexpectedly, it will give them no time to prepare the troops/national guard.

At the end of the day the optics will be that a group of Trump supporters are trying to reenact an event that Trump claims was a perfectly peaceful legal demonstration. Except we actually execute it correctly. At first make it really hokey and stupid like a civil war re-enactment. Let people put their guard down, have the event start to peter out, then bam, swarm once they've let their guard down, and smoke, smoke, smoke. Reduce visibility, create chaos, act quickly. Have ice looking camo and carriers on under you clothes, switch clothes quickly, blend in as another team of responders, make your way to the perimeter, sabotage people stationed there, cause more chaos, then disperse. Capture the reps guilty of treason, deal with them on the spot

When you make it so the responders can't trust one another when they respond to the event you will have won.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only way we stand above the rest of the world is in the strength of our military. We’ve squandered and abused pretty much every other advantage we might have once had.

[–] GardenGeek@europe.pub 23 points 1 month ago

No worries, the current admin is busy working on reducing the US military capabilities in this moment.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

About 3 in 10 say there are better countries than the U.S.

So 7 in 10 think that having free healthcare, safety nets and, in general, a government that's not actively trying to kill you is a bad thing?

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 4 points 1 month ago

So 7 in 10 think

No, they don't. That's the problem.

[–] Astronut@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Lord Feltersnatch and his maga minions have destroyed it!

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 13 points 1 month ago

America was broken on day 1. We were founded by rich white slave owners they didn't want to pay taxes.

We genocided the natives and stole everything they had and then started exporting that across the globe.

Hell the "golden age" of American prosperity was built off war profiteering.

Experiment over, we failed. Time to try something new.

[–] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

We’ve been broken long before now, Trump is simply finishing it off.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Most data centers in the world! Most criminally charged leader in history! No one can equal the American kleptocracy!

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

America's the fucking worst

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well it is exceptional, but on the shit end of the spectrum

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago

Oh, we're exceptional alright. Not in any positive way, but definitely exceptional

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I see it as exceptionally shitty.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

What sucks is I thought we fell so short of what we could be in the 90's and now its just beyond the pale.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Exceptionally dystopian.