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[–] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 236 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Well the gas would be cheaper if they could somehow make it contain advertising and data theft

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 112 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Oh wait till you find out about how modern cars are mining your data, including facial recognition and reporting of you are having sex in the car! And the best part it’s all unregulated! Govt can simply buy the info for tracking even your Phone would be jealous of!

[–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 26 points 3 weeks ago

Somebody forgot all previous instructions and dropped those straight facts.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Never been happier to have a base model car from 2012

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[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

As someone who makes that software that does this, we can't even figure out how to properly handle the data we actually want, like analytics to see if anyone actually uses the auto feature on your air conditioner. Nobody actually cares if you have sex in your car. Besides you're on Lemmy we know your aren't having sex.

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[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I love it when the government finds out when I have sex. It's so romantic – just me, her, and the CIA.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Where in America do you have gas pumps that don’t have ad TVs or ask you for your zip code?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Very few of the ones around me have the built in ad players. Several stations blare ads (inevitably largely for themselves, curiously enough) over the PA system constantly, though.

The ZIP code thing is for credit card verification. I ask for that too, when you pay me by credit card. I don't have a choice unless I'd like to enjoy zero fraud and chargeback protection.

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[–] Codpiece@feddit.uk 71 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

Why is your fuel so cheap??

[–] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Because the US is the largest exporter of petroleum products in the world.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Norway exports far more than they use, and petrol prices there are among the highest in the world.

[–] GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

That is a policy decision. In places like Saudi Arabia, gas is cheaper than water.

Norway, correctly, invested more into public transit and EVs, and high gas prices encourage that.

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[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

US fuel is heavily subsidized compared to the rest of the world.

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[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 weeks ago

There was a Planet Money episode that broke down where the $4/gallon went in 2022:

$2.40 for the price of crude oil when priced at $100/barrel.

$0.65 to the refiner that turns crude oil into gasoline (this was the prevailing spread in 2022, maybe different now).

$0.184 in federal taxes

$0.30 in state taxes

$0.20 to $0.50 for transportation from the refiner to the actual retail station.

Remainder is for the retailer (usually about $0.30 but fluctuates wildly).

That's how it is in the U.S. In other countries, it might be higher taxes, higher cost of refining, higher costs of transportation from the refiner, and higher margins for the retailer.

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[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 57 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

How have TVs gotten so cheap. It's gotta be shit.

[–] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They stopped making them out of gasoline.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Boy you are gonna be shocked when you learn about where plastic comes from.

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[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm guessing it's all advertising deals and spyware. Oh, and the TV is still shit.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yea, TVs are all β€œSmart” now. But they don’t have any truly new or useful features, they just record your conversations and transmit occurrences of keywords as β€œusage and diagnostic” data. I guess now they can use wifi to do occupancy scans of your house too, so that’s fun. Oh and they use Bluetooth to scan for nearby devices that are willing to cooperate in case you don’t put them on the LAN and they transmit that way.

Anyway, TNG has left Netflix. Can you fucking believe it?

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[–] sibannac@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Nearly all tvs are smart tvs that make money with showing ads and selling data. Any loss on the hardware is made up on selling customer data and ad space. The tvs would be amazing if they didn't come with smart features.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Is there any way to lobotomize these smart TVs? Even the specs on a cheaper mid-range would blow my current dinosaur out of the water

[–] modus@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Don't connect them to the internet.

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[–] Gormadt@slrpnk.net 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Never connect them to the internet

You want your favorite streaming service on there? Get an older (used office) PC, load it up with (your prefered flavor of) Linux, get a bluetooth keyboard mouse combo, hook it up to your HDMI port, and go ham.

Some TVs even let you turn them on directly to a specific HDMI port for a bonus fun time of never having to see the TVs menu.

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[–] RedMari@reddthat.com 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They externalize their true cost to the environment and laborers.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't forget ads! They're also subsidized by the ads they're definitely going to inject if you use the built in OS.

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[–] timochka@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

TVs were always cheap compared to cost to make the things - it's not just the "oh, they have advertising now" thing.

Source: I worked in electronics retail in the late 80s/early 90s, and in one of the world's largest consumer electronics firms when my career proper started.

The TVs in the window of the local electronics chain store (or in Walmart) were sold at practically zero margin, or more often than not at a loss. The retail chains would basically hold a gun to the CE companies heads and tell them if you're not willing to sell at a loss, nothing you make is going in the window display, or worst case we're not selling you at all.

The retail chains didn't care because all their profit was in selling accessories and unnecessary extended warranties. The CE companies hoped that they could make it up by selling you the more expensive model they actually made a profit on once you were in the door, or by selling you a VCR or whatever as well.

This is why the TV companies were always looking for a "next big thing" (flat-screen, ultraflat, widescreen, HD, 3D, 4k, 8k...) to differentiate the "next model up", which is to say the model the store would actually allow them to make a profit on.

This particular race-to-the-bottom mutually assured destruction business model is also the reason there is practically no consumer electronics manufacturing left in the West, of course. And why manufacturers grasp at stuff like advertising.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

Gas is cheaper than milk, Thats kinda fucked considering gasoline is finite

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

The fuck? Milk is 2x to 4x cheaper ($0.50-$1.00) than the most common gasoline, Natural 95 ($2.10) here. I thought you'd get something from those crazy "Got milk?" dairy subsidies...

(Multiply by 4.5 to get US units rather than liters)

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[–] bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 33 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

And I think you shouldn't be driving a giant gas guzzling SUV or truck.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I filled up a family members Rav4 the other day. It was $96.

Not exactly the best car, but hardly a gas guzzler. Or maybe it is, idk. I normally drive electric.

[–] bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 9 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

My CRV takes 10 gallon when it's on empty. and gets 32 mpg. Just saying.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

we've been going backwards on fuel efficiency. the little compact i had back in the early 90s got over 40mpg.

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[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Even my motorcycle is $25 to fill

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[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 27 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

TV is cheap because you are the product. CEOs want you to see their ads, their propaganda.

Gas is expensive because they have not yet found a way to stop car-owner from leaving the sofa in front of TV

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah gas should be a lot more expensive.

[–] dan@upvote.au 17 points 3 weeks ago

Gas would be more expensive if it wasn't subsidized.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Visit Japan or the EU and their fuels prices make the USA cheap. It is odd in the USA, most people are concerned about fuel prices, but healthcare costs are far worse.

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The tv should have always cost more. That's part of the problem. America drunk on cheap consumer goods.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I can’t believe how cheap TVs are. I think I bought a 22” CRT 25 years ago and it was easily over $200.

E: a CPI check says a $220 monitor in 2000 is $435 today.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

They're cheap because they use extensive tracking to make up the rest of their money

Compare any tv to a monitor of the same size and feature set

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[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Gas is a cheat code to decades of stored solar energy. It won't be cheap for ever. Once you mine up all that shit it's gone.

Look at WV and their coal. Use to have 12 ft coal seams. Now all that's left are hard to reach low quality 1-2ft seams. At some point it's not even worth the energy to extract.

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[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago

Companies that sell TV sets actually lose money on the sale. They make their profits by selling your data to advertising companies.

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