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[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Just remember, no matter what way they spin this, they chose to ignore national security protocols and went out of their way to use an unsecure messaging app. That's the real story. The witch hunt they're undoubtedly going to go on is a perfect opportunity to redirect the public, save face, and further erode our freedoms.

You know, SOP for the whole Trump regime...

[–] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, the reason we know about it is because Mike Waltz invited a journalist to a group chat.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

a snowball of stupidity if you will. Let’s see how big it grows… looks like it picked up momentum and size now with TG Signal hacked 🤡 ☃️

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If leaking info to zios is unsecure, USA has much bigger problems.

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[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool…

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Funny how the USA went nuts and strong-armed other Western nations to outright ban Chinese hardware and companies due to "security concerns." Yet allowed using a fork of Signal from a foreign nation, and those concerns were nowhere to be found. IOF is already known to be on par (if not better) with the USA in spying on and creating false flags globally. Yet the highest office chose to use it anyway. Which is beyond stupid given that a fork could have been made and ran by a USA company (or the NSA or whichever three letter agency) specifically for the same use. Hell those agencies already are and have been heavily funding the Signal Foundation.

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[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Wow. It's almost like there is a reason that all those annoying OPSEC procedures exist.

[–] 0p3r470r@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Who could have seen this coming /s

[–] PineRune@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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Any copy of the article that doesn't want my personal info?

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We have forked off from the darkest timeline into its stupidest.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like that your optimism separated the two

[–] Valorie12@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For now, until they pull request it back to the dark timeline

[–] ABC123itsEASY@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Changes Requested

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago

Let's put them back together:

"Like Idiocracy, only less fun"

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago

These goddamned idiots are going to get at least one supercarrier sunk. At least one.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Oh? What a surprise.

Release em!

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It uses client side encryption, so that shouldn't impact confidentiality

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The password is "Ivanka69!"

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, the keys are PFS and randomly generated by the app. Encryption uses double ratchet. The seed is in the TPM and cannot be extracted.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Wait they were using an unpublished fork of Signal?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

No. It's a wrapper around Signal that sends everything into a corporate cloud. The Isaraeli miltary/defense/espionage whatever have been using this, then sold it to a US company. I'm guessing the company provides wrappers around other apps as well.

It completely defeats the purpose of E2EE. I'm sure somebody told our oh-so-competent US government that's exactly what they need.

Like, it's actually worse than SignalGate.

They do provide wrappers for other apps too, I forget the name of the company but they provide them for WhatsApp, Telegram, and others.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

So basically, they hacked themselves out of any benefit Signal was giving them, and then an external party finished the hack.

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Goverment officials are required to archive all communications, so it doesn't defeat the purposes of E2EE because you can't have full E2EE to start with. If it was propely implemented and didn't get hacked it would be fine. Tho I guess implementation wise if it really sends all the data to a corporate instead of government cloud that's a problem as well.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

If it was propely implemented and didn’t get hacked

If it was properly researched and approved by DoD and used on authorized, secure devices which were running on secured networks, it would be fine.

The baseline for security has been pretty decent for years. It's painfully restrictive which is why they're chomping at the bit to make it easier, but just slamming a corporate product into use with secret data with no oversight has never been fine even if it was secure.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

The Isaraeli miltary/defense/espionage whatever have been using this, then sold it to a US company.

Not at all suspicious. \s

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Daily reminder that end to end encryption only works when both ends are secure

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[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

Shockingly comes days after the leak that the service is being used by the dork team. Someone really really really wants to get these backups.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

The Signal Clone the Trump Admin Uses Was Hacked... by the zio company that made it.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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