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That made me feel so shitty, exploitative to the extreme, we are fucked as a society.
Now that you are trying to put everyone out of work, killed open source, killed open publishing, who are you going to sell your shit too? what will you train your next models on?
I too feel uncomfortable, but I have also felt uncomfortable with the exploitations that happen to make most products for the West and yet few cared for many decades. People only seem to care when it directly impacts them. It is like we had our chance to protect others and we utterly failed.
Thats brutal, having to teach the system taking your own job. I'd try to poison the data with random gang signs and shit
wtf, why do all these robots keep jerking off
Don't worry. The kind of work these people do is nowhere near possible to replace with AI. CEOs, accountants, lawyers and middle managers on the other hand...
I'd rather these jobs be automated than the ones AI is gunning for.
Why? Do you perceive manual labor as something that needs to be eliminated? "Bad"?
CEOs, accountants, lawyers and middle managers
I’m pretty sure these are the jobs they’re referring to, not the manual labor
Yes. I do. I have performed manual labor and I've performed desk work in an office. The one where I could sit in a comfy chair with air conditioning and free access to a kitchen and reliably clean bathrooms was much better for me. Arguing that AI should be the decision maker positions and humans should continue to be manual labor is dumb. It's not like factory workers are free lance woodworkers creating fulfilling art. They're just selling their bodies to survive.
Manual labor isn't the description most would use for the activities in that factory...
The AI training is likely not to replace them but monitor the quality and speed to find "efficiency gains" in the process and procedure. The AI is learning how to make a garment to know how to help managers be more overbearing.
Science fiction’s superpower isn’t thinking up new technologies – it’s thinking up new social arrangements for technology. What the gadget does is nowhere near as important as who the gadget does it for and who it does it to. Your car can use a cutting-edge computer vision system to alert you when you’re drifting out of your lane – or it can use that same system to narc you out to your insurer so they can raise your premiums by $10 that month to punish you for inattentive driving. Same gadget, different social arrangement.
https://locusmag.com/feature/commentary-cory-doctorow-reverse-centaurs/
Brutal? Think about the poor ceo's! They really need that new Porsche this year, not next year.
Times really are rough when there is no yacht money around.
They'd have another set of indians labeling the shit making it useless.
That’s how almost every job works.
I’m a journeyman carpenter, my roles include training apprentices to replace me.
Aa yeah that beautiful job that fulfills my deepest calling of my immortal soul, Please stop the robots taking this blessing away from me!!
You think if they lose their job that there's just a better job waiting for them? There's a reason they took those jobs.
Nothing waits for nobody. What do you think, if the robot takes his factory work he'll just curl up in the corner and die?
Maybe there are millions of other things to do. Not just as a factory worker. People underestimate their own creative power under the pressure of the systems we live in. So .. I say it's good to lose a job now and then, one might have a moment to evaluate their own life and find something that's more deeply aligned with their core values.
So let the automation take 'our' jobs. It's great! We'll maybe start doing something more interesting for ourselves.
On the other hand, if you really feel like being a little bot in the assembly line is 'your own job' then I wish you luck with that too. Hope you get better at it than any automaton ever will, dude.
I don't think it's that simple. Entire businesses have to be started and upscaled for this to happen. If enough jobs vanish quickly enough, they don't just reappear. The economy can't react instantly to things like this, it takes years. And if it's happening in all industries simultaneously it may not happen at all.
Well I think we're looking at it from different perspectives.
I don't care about vanishing of the jobs on a mass scale. And the economy not being capable of reacting to it.
I say that human creativity has practically no limits and the drive for the betterment of one's life will always find a way. And probably in a more fulfilling way than just being a nod in the assembly line of corporate products that they themselves can't even afford with the coins they are making there.
So maybe it is better that automation takes over such jobs so people find something else to do. And they will. As always ..
It seems you've never heard of unemployment. It's a real thing and in many economies it can be above 10%
Am jahbless as we speak. lol
Well I admire your optimism then! 😜
Thanks. But tbf, I wasn't forced into it one way or another. It's my choice to live outdoors, carry water and use a small solar system for phone and small gadgets. I could get a job tomorrow and rent a place next month. But this is what I prefer at the moment and for any lack in my life, that is reasonable, I blame myself because there's many things I could do to make my life better that cost nothing.
I imagine, if you are in Bombay and have 3 children, that's a completely different set of cards, but still there are so many things you can change. In most cases ...
I imagine, if you are in Bombay and have 3 children, that's a completely different set of cards, but still there are so many things you can change.
Poverty begets poverty. Poor people are usually too concerned about the next meal to take time for big structural overhauls of their way of doing things.
True. It can really be a trappy situation. Not easy to see the way out when everything is stacked against you.
To be optimistic about the times we live now - AI is not just taking away the jobs, it also gives possibilities to anyone with a smartphone that was unimaginable just a few years ago.
We might see some crazy creative stuff coming from Asia and Africa in the coming years using this tech. The thing is, everyone's gonna pull it their way. Not just corporations but also people looking for solutions. It can make a really huge impact to pull people out of poverty and give them stability and independence.
"Training your replacement," Futuristic Dystopia edition.
A new phrase dropped for "digging your own grave"
they should get paid double. as theyre now filling 2 positions: manual laborer and AI trainer
But as we know capitalism's goal is not to compensate workers fairly, but rather extract as much money as possible.
AI once again just standing for actually Indians.
We are so getting murdered the moment everything is fully automated. Remember that how we are currently treated is how we are treated while the 1% needs our labor. Do not expect better treatment when we are "useless eaters"