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Researchers point to contaminated water after ‘forever chemicals’ found in all but one of 23 sampled beers

All but one of 23 beers sampled for toxic Pfas “forever chemicals” contained the compounds, new research finds, raising safety questions about one of the world’s most popular beverages.

The researchers checked craft beer from multiple states, major domestic brands, and several international labels.

When possible, they compared the measurements to Pfas levels in the county water supply where each was bottled, revealing a “strong correlation” that suggests contaminated water is driving most of the problem. The levels were often above some drinking water limits for Pfas.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 110 points 11 months ago

Good thing the federal EPA is really taking PFAS seriously!

That was a joke, they're walking the regulations back of course.

[–] OppaGundamStyle@discuss.tchncs.de 58 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who on Earth is the one with none? That’s the real story here.

[–] macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“…international beers were less likely to have detectable PFAS or PFAS at higher levels, which may reflect the lack of or lower levels of PFAS in drinking water in these regions. The first study of PFAS in tap water in Latin America found that PFAS were not generally associated with any drinking water source in Guatemala City, the region’s largest city, which lacked PFAS manufacturing industries”

[–] errer@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

PFAS are in the water cycle so I’m skeptical that any place is truly clear of them. The worst places are proximate to PFAS production sites, many of which are in the USA. Prolly not a good idea to open a brewery within 100 miles of any of those, but betting many are…

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

I'm so glad the U.S. is taking PFAS serious...oh wait.

[–] who@feddit.org 18 points 11 months ago

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.4c11265#_i24

4.4. PFAS in Beer and Drinking Water Occurrence

Beers selected based on their brewery location’s proximity to known elevated levels of PFAS in drinking water had 15 times the odds of having one or more detection of PFAS compared to larger-scale U.S. or international beers selected based on consumer popularity without known PFAS sources in municipal water. The PFSAs and PFOA had the highest detection rates and were also among the most frequently detected chemicals in drinking water across the United States in recent studies. (26,28,55,67) The substitution of long-chain PFSAs with short-chain PFSAs (PFBS) has also been observed with high detection rates in recent drinking water studies as well as beers we analyzed. (26,28,55,61)

North Carolina beers, particularly those within the Cape Fear River Basin, generally had detections of more PFAS species than Michigan or California beers, which reflects the variety of PFAS sources in NC. (68) The two beers with the largest number of different PFAS detected were both located in the upper regions of the Cape Fear River Basin in Chatham and Alamance counties, where larger variability in the types of PFAS as well as higher concentrations of PFAS have been observed in surface waters in the Haw River. (14,68) HFPO–DA was detected in both beer and raw water from a drinking water treatment plant (DWTP) in the lower region of the Cape Fear River Basin. (14) The DWTP at which HFPO–DA was detected pulls in water from the Cape Fear River downstream from a fluorochemical manufacturing plant that produces the chemical. (14,69)

Similarities between PFAS in drinking water and beer were also observed in Michigan, where Kalamazoo County had the highest reported average PFOA concentration from the state-reported drinking water of all counties in the three states. The beer brewed in this county also had the highest measured PFOA concentration of all of the beers in the study. The correlations between ∑PFAS, PFOA, and PFBS levels in beers were linked to local drinking water contamination.

Approximately 18% of breweries operating in the United States are located within zip codes served by public water supplies with detectable PFAS in drinking water as reported by UCMR5 (as of July 2024; Figures 6 and S2). We found that international beers were less likely to have detectable PFAS or PFAS at higher levels, which may reflect the lack of or lower levels of PFAS in drinking water in these regions. The first study of PFAS in tap water in Latin America found that PFAS were not generally associated with any drinking water source in Guatemala City, the region’s largest city, which lacked PFAS manufacturing industries; rather, PFAS occurrence in tap water was instead associated with plastic water storage tank usage. (70)

Figure 6. U.S. Map showing total PFAS (ppt; color scale) in zip codes served by public drinking water supplies reported by UCMR5 (July 2024) and locations of currently operating breweries (light blue circles). See Figure S2 for additional maps zoomed into several regions.

[–] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In water, fine.. IN BEEER!!?

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It’s in every source of water on the planet, including people. It collects in brains and testes and other organs and we’ve been hearing about it for ages.

But somehow it’s surprising it’s in beer and oh we gotta write an article about it!

[–] Killer@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Quite literally, they've found caves untouched for millennia that have microplastics in them. They're inescapable at this point.

[–] Bouzou@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

It's pedantic, but PFAs & microplastics are two very different things.

[–] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The article says it was found in American beer but not in international beer

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 6 points 11 months ago

It says it was found in international beers as well

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trump will fix this! He will cut funding to the research so it will not be detected anymore. There, problem solved.

[–] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For those who wish to know more about the origin and spread of PFAS

https://youtu.be/SC2eSujzrUY

[–] orbular@lemmy.today 5 points 11 months ago

Links to the recent Veritasium video on PFAS aka forever chemicals. Describes the story of how PFAS were discovered, including interviews from the lawyer that got Du Pont to settle with the farmer, and how he continued to press the industry but they kept finding ways to weasel out of responsibility for contamination of waterways and global air. The host tests his own blood for various types of PFAS and uses online PFAS estimators to help understand that where he was living for ~10 years had higher levels in the water, which tracks to the higher levels seen in his blood. There's still PFAS in everyday consumer products - anything slippery or waterproof. They also interview someone researching PFAS filtration. Plenty more interesting bits in the video. Worth a watch.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't it be more surprising if they found something that doesn't contain PFAS? At this point I'm assuming it's everywhere.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Right? If it's in drinking water, why wouldn't it also be in beer?

[–] Caffeinated_Sloth@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Drinking beer may cause eternal life. Got it. Good news for a Friday!

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (15 children)

If you're worried about drinking pfas wait till you hear about what alcohol does...

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

So... it's more hazardous to drink water than beer? You son of a bitch... I'm in!

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Just turn your drinking water into beer. Problem solved!

[–] bollybing@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

"The levels were often above some drinking water limits"

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago

Yea… but dude… it’s beer

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

raising safety questions about one of the world’s most popular beverages

Wait, I thought this article was about American beer...

[–] toast@retrolemmy.com 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That was a better joke 30 years ago. 40 years ago, it was hilarious.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fine. I'll grant there are some good craft beers. Too much emphasis on IPAs, but once you find some that meet your taste, we do have some good ones. Yeungling Black & Tans are pretty good, and I wouldn't even call them craft.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeungling started in 1829 when there was only 24 States. Supposedly the oldest brewery in the U.S.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago

Believe it or not, you don’t have to be American or live in America to drink American beer

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I bought a Lifestraw to filter water which I also use for making tea and coffee. It filters out PFAS along with micro plastics and other shit we are poisoning ourselves with. Don't know if it would work with beer.

[–] otterpop@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Something like this might be a solution for home use: https://cyclopure.com/dexsorb/

That or reverse osmosis

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

Oh wow so they found PFAS in piss?