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Edit: As @bdonvr@thelemmy.club points out below

  1. This is just a mascot and is not a new logo
  2. The blog referencing Mozilla’s statement on the mascots gender says, (he/she/they/them/it), use whatever pronoun you prefer.
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[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 200 points 3 days ago (19 children)

The gender orientation of the firefox logo is something I haven't thought about ever.

What's the point of this?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 71 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The point is that you've fallen for some idiots on X making up culture war bullshit.

Kit's supposed pronouns aren't mentioned by Mozilla anywhere in any Mozilla announcements.

One news site attributes this quote to Mozilla

Kit (he/she/they/them/it) is the user’s constant companion. Wherever they choose to roam, Kit will accompany and guide them with clever, playful encouragement and support — giving the user the confidence to run free.

That's the one and only place that even remotely mentions it as far as I can tell. And it's not even a statement that it's NB or they/them... More like it's a fictional mascot call it what you want.

Jesus, it's Clippy all over again.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

look i agree the x post is culture war shit, but mozilla does mention the gender of their mascot in their branding resources… but imo this is less of an explicit recognition about the mascot being non-binary and more a function of the mascot being able to be interpreted by humans however they like, and “it” being the term they seem to use simply to increase ambiguity and feelings of personal connection to the mascot for the most people

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Mozilla uses "they're" to refer to Kit, but other than that there's no explicit statement at all.

Kit is a companion, not a commentator. They’re not here to deliver punchlines. Kit shows up as a small signal that Firefox is working for you, then steps back so you can keep moving.

[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I used "they" etc. when I don't know the gender of the person I'm talking about. I feel like that's the safest assumption.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

~~which is from a notoriously “pro-conservative” twitter account, so safe is highly debatable given that the “conservative” label is often applied to provably false arguments~~

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[–] JayGray91@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago
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[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

The point is corporations have realizing lgbtq people are fucking just as retarded and easy to manipulate as everyone else

You say they/them and sell shit to a new demographic. It's the same shit as all the rainbow fucking crap in June.

There's no actual representation happening here. It's all just shallow bullshit to sell you shit and manipulate you.

[–] wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

True, it was just "a fox" for me so far. I didn't really care about the gender of a drawing. I guess it is a good awareness move though

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

It's a s***** awareness move. It's just a marketing ploy.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Feels like a publicity stunt more than a genuine attempt to include non-binary people.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It isn't, though. They never said that the mascot was non-binary.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

they do though via its pronouns - even including it, repeatedly referring to it even in their intro blog post as “they”

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[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's a distraction from the real important issue, which is...

...what does the fox say? /j

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

At risk of being abrasive...

I see blue checkmarks, I downvote. Nothing personal. But I don't want to support that even indirectly.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Eh at this point I'm just sick and fucking tired watching sexuality become nothing but marketing bait. People's sexuality and gender are becoming nothing but a two cent market gimmick and it's fucking insulting.

This isn't cool representation! It's hey lgbtq people your stupid and fucking easy. Look we can use the right words. Trust us and buy our shit.

It's just the fucking corporatization of rainbows in June all over again.

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

watching sexuality become nothing but marketing bait.

This is what I figured what would happen once people started pushing for more explicit sexuality acceptance. This is the bed they made.

Trust us and buy our shit.

This is also due to people inside said corporations pushing for this shit due to ideological reasons.

*some LGBT:* Give us the positive attention and validation that we crave! *Large Corporations, seeing opportunities:* OK *some LGBT:* No, not like that!

Again, welcome to their bed.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

"Becoming" as though "sex sells" hasn't been a thing for literally as long as we've had the concept of commerce…

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's not just corporations. It's influencer-grifters like Pirat_Nation.

...And, to be blunt, reposters who further spread the ragebait, like OP.

The platforms, ultimately, are what facilitate "marketing bait." But I dunno what to do about that, as human being simply cannot help themselves once they see stuff like that. It works, apparently.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah agree

It's a fucking fox, why does it need to have a specific gender? It was genderless by default they don't need to announce it one way or another, other than to pander to people.

[–] nightlily@leminal.space 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good instinct. Pirat_Nation is a grifter/ragebaiting account. No one should be giving him visibility.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I mean, yeah... It's a blue checkmark account.

At this point, if you're paying for extra engagement on Twitter, that is beyond "benefit of the doubt." It seems safe to assume its some kind of attention farm.

[–] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Has anyone even thought about the gender of the original?

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Why would you even bother?

Everyone knows the original was a hetro white male.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 77 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

By the way this is NOT a new Firefox logo. It's just the fox mascot drawing that may be used in other parts of the UI like the welcome screen after a new install, or on social media.

The actual logo remains unchanged.

On top of that nowhere in the announcement are the supposed pronouns mentioned: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/meet-kit/

Actually the whole thing may be bullshit. Literally the only Mozilla reference I can find to Kit's pronouns is a statement given to like one or two blogs, and it says that any pronoun is acceptable.

Kit (he/she/they/them/it) is the user’s constant companion. Wherever they choose to roam, Kit will accompany and guide them with clever, playful encouragement and support — giving the user the confidence to run free.

That's attributed to Mozilla here: https://www.neowin.net/news/firefox-has-killed-its-old-mascot-heres-what-the-new-cute-one-looks-like/

All other references seem to be chuds on X claiming that it's explicitly they/them and acting like Mozilla is making a big deal about that. As if it matters either way.

If you had some kind of reaction to this post you've fallen for culture war bullshit propaganda, congratulations.

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[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 76 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Firefox is now exclusive to ternary computers.

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[–] Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 51 points 3 days ago (5 children)

What if.... hear me out.... what if we remove the focus on gender altogether? What if we stop engendering things that don't have genders? Like logos... and behavioral attributes...

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

Just don't go as extreme as trying to de-gender languages, like Spanish, which is a gendered language (as are several others):

There is no latinx, only latina and latino. Whoever uses latinx unironically can fuck right off, for being an ignorance cringelord.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Since Mozilla actually didn’t and the post is based on a lie, I’ll say congratulations, your reaction is almost certainly what they were hoping for

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 38 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Waterfox needs to catch up with a gender-fluid fox

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[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

mascots gender says

It's a fucking red panda.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The old one was also non-binary. Prove me wrong.

(Honestly, I just don't care. Load the web page and render some JavaScript already)

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just search for "Firefox Chan". And maybe keep on SafeSearch too...

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 9 points 2 days ago

And maybe keep on SafeSearch too…

No, I don't think I will

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago

It uses qubits sorry. Get a quantum computer loser

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 20 points 3 days ago

Are telling me they fired the previous mascot to hire a gender minority? Smh

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's a fox. I like the fox.

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[–] normonator@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's stupid, it was genderless before until they brought it up.

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[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Isn't the old mascot/logo completely non-gendered already?

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[–] artifex@piefed.social 21 points 3 days ago

Maybe it’s meant to run on the old Soviet Setun platform.

[–] markz@suppo.fi 19 points 3 days ago

I never knew or thought about the old one's gender.

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