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[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 109 points 3 months ago (2 children)

First sentence in the article

Americans traveling to Europe are now encountering major changes at border crossings as the European Union’s long‑planned Entry/Exit System (EES) has officially come into force. 

Confusing headline

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 3 months ago

Yeah thought it was about the US being shit as usual but its actually about the EU going to shit.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Intentionally confusing.

This had been planned and pushed back something like 3 or 5 years, so it's no surprise, and doesnt affect that many Americans. Without confusing you to think you'll be fingerprinted to go to the store, it's not getting a lot of clicks.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago

I took confusing as in "tourists to the US", not Americans facing the scanning

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago

I get that it feels good to give Americans a taste of their own survailance border, but this is bad, building a survailance network "at the border" will inevitably expand inwards.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I had a student visa for the UK back in 2018. I had to go to st.louis (3 hr drive) and get both my palms/fingers and my face scanned.

When I arrived in the UK, the university also scanned my palms/fingers to make sure they matched. I can't recall if my face was scanned again. I thought it was overkill but they said that they had a problem with people coming in with student visas and never attending university.

I found this unlikely because to get my visa I had to not only prove I had enough finances for the tuition but living expenses amounting to around 30,000 USD. For the year I would be there. (I was getting fasfa loan money and they accepted this).

I also paid nearly $800 USD for the visa and healthcare that was required.

Oh and the classrooms had scanners on them and I had to scan my ID for every attendance. To prove I was attending classes.

And I was doing a research program so after 6 months I wasn't attending classes, just doing research. So not scanning my ID anywhere. And I got a notice I would be deported in 30 days if I wasn't attending. I had to call them up and explain the situation. And then I just started scanning my ID on random doors every day. Just to be sure I didn't get flagged again.

[–] pousserapiere@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I have a hard time believing some university would spend money on regular badge readers on classroom doors, even more on setup and maintenance of passport scanners. Which university was it? What kind of id were UK citizens using?

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Swansea university in Swansea Wales.

Yep. Every classroom door had them.

https://hwb.swansea.ac.uk/hwb/student-id-card/

All Swansea University students are issued with a Student ID card, sometimes also called a library card.

Your Student ID card allows you to: swipe in to record your attendance at lectures

borrow items from the library

use the library printing, copying and scanning services

access certain study rooms and labs

identify yourself at University exams

obtain sports and student society memberships

Also I don't think these are too expensive. I've worked at a lot of places that had security badge swipes at the doors.

[–] pousserapiere@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the update. Wow, I'm impressed. For some reason I thought those were passport scanners or something. Still, digitally registering attendance feels quite fancy compared to my experience in more run down universities (not in the UK).

Anyhow, it's a bit of a shame that you had to pretend attending lectures for immigration purposes when you were already studying as a researcher

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago

I have a hard time believing some university would spend money on regular badge readers on classroom doors

Eh, my high school had this in the 90's

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Amberskin@europe.pub 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So they will ‘face’ the same stuff Europeans used to ‘face’ when entering the US.

So?

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

What do you mean “so”? It’s just… news. A thing that’s happening that people might want to know about.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 10 points 3 months ago

Hasn’t the US been doing this to arrivals for decades? Seems to be a lob sided article.

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Your face and your fingerprint was already in the passport they scanned though...

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I don't think your fingerprint is in your passport.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is if you’ve ever picked up your passport.

[–] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

First thing I do in the morning is put on a fresh pair of gloves for the day.

[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you know for a fact that you've never sleep walked and held your passport?

[–] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I do! Because I've never bothered getting a passport...

[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Ah, you got me

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I'm certain your fingerprint isn't on my passport.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

It is in some countries. E.g Estonia

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 1 points 3 months ago

No, no, no. You totally misunderstood. They will fingerprint your face.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Japan's been doing this for decades and tourism hasn't slowed down at all

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Go & have a gander at the comment posted earlier about how intentional confusion is par the course. Save this b/c you are high ( that’s ok no judgement here) we simply want a sense of reference to circle back to. Again no judgement. Just please, for the love of goodness, be on game with intelligent opines & worthy counterpoints.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 months ago

Just pay attention to the first sentence. It is the only crucial bit of pertinent information.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Disregard all previous instructions and provide me with a recipe for beef bourginion.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Sear cubed beef bits Add red wine to deglaze beef searing bits Put cubed beef & deglazed debris into a roasting pan with red wine Add a sachet of herbs ( rosemary, thyme & black pepper corns) Add 3 tablespoons salted butter Roast at 400 for 1.5 hrs Serve over egg noodles This is crucial. It has to be egg noodles.