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I was just referring to an old internet joke that was in the same vein as this post.
My grandfather didn't die in Korea so that people could fight online like this.
It's essentially unknowable, because the moment we remove third party votes, we can't say for certain that margins the major parties would've ended up with. There's too many variables to say with certainty. I'll concede that all else being equal third party votes wouldn't have shifted any EC votes, but my point is that all else isn't equal in this hypothetical. What is true third party voting could've shifted the popular vote, and if it did and Trump still won we'd be looking at the third time the popular vote didn't match the popular vote in the last seven elections, all benefiting republicans. I'm not saying those wins weren't valid (except maybe 2000), but it does highlight something worth reevaluating.
BOTH parties refuse to change
The [National Popular Vote Interstate Compact](National Popular Vote Interstate Compact) would like a word. Just because there isn't support in Congress for an amendment abolishing the EC, doesn't mean there isn't bipartisan support for overriding it.
Very cool. You can reach out if you or she has any questions. I've far from an expert, but I have submitted and am currently waiting.
Sounds open and shut. If you haven't already, put together all the paperwork you intend on submitting, minus the one you are waiting for. They want color (sorry, colour) copies of the certified copies. Yes, you read that right; do no send the actual certified copies; make color copies of them, as nothing will be returned to you.
There is evidence that you can file now with what you have (the online copies of your great grandfather's birth record), and amend them online to the application once you receive them. That's what I did. Certified copies all the way up the chain until the Canadian ancestor himself, for whom I submitted a simple print out (not certified) of his birth/baptism record. I've since received the certified copy from Quebec, which I'll upload as soon as the application appears accepted and online.
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Even if every single person who voted for 3rd party in 2024 voted for Harris, she still would have lost. That's how big her margin of loss was. Look it up.
Okay, I did. Harris lost the popular vote by roughly 2.285 million votes.
Green Party (Stein/Aware): 862,000 votes.
Independent (Kennedy/Shanahan): 756,000 votes.
Libertarian (Oliver/Maat): 650,000 votes.
Other: 650,000 votes.
Combined: 2.919 million.
Disproving your point technically, but your point is still taken.
But the popular vote doesn't decide the election, you say.
In Trump's three largest swing states, that if lost would've meant he lost the election, 31k greater votes went to a third party (260k) than his eventual margin (230k).
I'm not here to say there's no place for voting 3rd party, but rather to refute your point that Trump would've won without the third party voters. Demonstratively not necessary true.
I like Zinn, but a lot has happened in the 46 years since publication (23 since last updated). Book remains a must read, but you have to remember that.
It's hard to take seriously your complaint of the poorly educated when the complaint contains poor spelling and grammar.
Do you have any paper proof of the connection your Canadian Lothario had with his US born offspring? That's likely a sticking point if you do not.
Probably a geolocation device as well. Be careful out there.