Build/Reopen refineries not tanks. We will need petrol for decades to come, they are not going to be wasted.
this post was submitted on 08 Apr 2026
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When BP announced they were shutting the Perth refinery, years ago now, I just looked at that and thought has no one at BP or Government/Security services considered the sovereign risk that introduced? Anyway, we're here now.
Doesn't Australia have enormous tracks of unused land and plenty of sunshine? If only there was some kind of proven renewable energy they could use.
We have literally every single alternative energy source in insane abundance. Consequently there have been decades of concentrated attacks to put people against them
They've not stopped either, the fossil fuel lobby constantly pillories Chris Bowen as the great enemy now.
But the role out is happening quietly, but quicker than ever. The main impediment was/is the changes to the transmission systems. Its an area I'm so hopeful about for Aus, and I think now justifiably so.
so pissed covid fucked the neighbourhood battery scheme in the butt down here in Vic. It was the perfect solution. decentralisation, absorption of excess without needing to upgrade, sharing the wealth.
How did COVID impact the battery scheme?
First round started off just as everything went to shit. Post-covid landscape is very different and even restarted it's lost a lot of its momentum.
Insane ay? Here’s Crisafulli talking up the power bill savings.
Canavan telling people we need to ‘cUt NeT z3Ro’ yet that cunt drives an EV and has solar, like that other orange headed cunt of a thing working for Rinehart.
They both have EVs? Really? 😆 Ol'coalface-Canavan? Wow, such an acting queen. And now he's play acting at responsible leader. Can't wait for his role in Romeo and Juliet.
"Oh, Romeo! Romeo! Where art thou EV?"
Yeah it’s all bullshit and projection with them. Of course they take advantage of these things, they know they’re money savers and they get massive rebates.
Shitty people in the truest sense they are. Canavan has personal interests in mining through his family and Hanson exists to extract whatever she can however she can.
Same with the premier; that grub has no issues spruiking up the power saving but it’s all through renewable sources that they exist. Then goes out to fuckin Taroom in hi vis to sing something that’s long been in the works and far from any energy panacea as his government delivering a solution.
Meanwhile we can’t keep electric cars on the shelf and China can’t sell them fast enough to us.
enormous tracks
Yeah but we’re looking at the curtains mate. And we just want to sing.
🤣 You made my day!
to be honest i think this is a problem that will solve itself over time, EV's are just better, not because they're cheaper but because they're faster, quieter, require less maintenance, and in general are just nicer
I read like 98% of people don't go back to ICE after having an EV so I think in the future we might have the same fuel tanks but 90 days worth of supply after we've got majority of cars off of it
It will take a while to move to EVs. SO far they are not have economical sense for average person. Prices should go down bellow ICE before we see any noticeable adoption.
I mean, you can buy a BYD Atto 1 for $27k and the cheapest new Toyota I can see is $33k.
All the cars currently on the road can't just be thrown away and replaced with EVs, but new EVs have actually hit and passed price parity now.
Yeh, one is Toyota other is Chinese crap. Please compare apples with apples. You can find EV with similar prices as ICE on secondary market. But only it means that EV are depreciated faster than ICE which makes it very questionable purchase as new.
You can't buy a used EV for under like $25,000 now and those are ten year old Leafs. Nobody's selling.
If you want apples to apples, you're probably looking at a BYD Dolphin for closer to $32,000.
You can tell that they're good cars for a good price by the way the US and EU car industries have been screaming for government protection the last few years.
If you're deadset against buying a Chinese branded EV, I guess you can wait for the Toyota branded EVs with BYD drivetrains that are on their way.
"Chinese crap" you realize a lot of high end engineering and manufacturing is completed in China? If you're looking at buying an item for cents on the dollar, then yes quality will be poor..
Yeah all reports on BYDs stuff is pretty good ay
This brings back memories of the shit we used to put on Japanese cars and bikes in the 70s
We should incentivise all new passenger vehicles imported to be phev,hybrid,ev only.
We should have already been using biofuels with much higher Ex levels.
We should be actively moving towards improving rail through the nation.
We should be installing at least a couple wind turbines at each town.
We should be seriously considering solar thermal stations (for base load power).
For a country with a reputation for being rugged and resilient, people sure do buy the "don't worry everything will be normal again soon, you don't have to change."