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[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 171 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Another failure to understand intellect from wisdom

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 68 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I've heard many different explanations of intelligence vs wisdom, and I used to think it made sense.

Like, intelligence is raw processing power while wisdom is having the advantage of experience.

Or like a smart man looks for oncoming cars before crossing a one-way street, while a wise man looks both ways before crossing a one-way street.

But the more I know about the world, the less I think experienced people are necessarily wiser. They're only wiser if they have the intelligence, clarity, and willpower to learn from their past.

So to me, it seems that wisdom is more like the area under the intelligence curve. Which would make them inexorably linked.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Time to wheel out an old classic:

Intelligence is knowing tomatoes are a fruit
Wisdom is knowing not to put tomatoes in fruit salad
Bonus: Charisma is selling tomato based fruit salad as salsa

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Dexterity is dodging rotten tomatoes
Strength is punching a tomato so hard that it turns into ketchup.

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Constitution is winning a tomato eating contest

Constitution is being able to digest a rotten tomato without getting sick or dying.

[–] toynbee@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ever watch Cool Hand Luke?

What we've got here is failure to communicate.

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[–] hobovision@mander.xyz 7 points 1 week ago

Dammit now I want salsa but it's time for bed

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The way that makes the most sense for me is intelligence is related to external learning (books, from others, from detailed study of things, etc) whereas wisdom comes primarily from internal observation (self-reflection, personal experience, situational awareness, etc.)

[–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ding ding ding! This is why sorcerers and dragons relay on wisdom, and mages relay on intelligence. One is born with a gift, the other is learned. And I think, at least older DnD, did it right to have a mage be able to do more through study than a sorcerer would be able to muster on providence.

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[–] prex@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I always thought of a hierarchy:
Data, information, knowledge, wisdom.
Intelligence being the ability to move further up that scale.

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[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Wisdom is evaluated experience. Some people don't "think", hence never learn from their mistakes.

Others are so open to learning that they don't even need to make the mistake first to learn to avoid it, as reading about it in a book is sufficient.

The key in either of these scenarios - negative or positive - is being willing to learn.

Intelligence is mere processing power, which meh, can help, but is neither necessary nor sufficient.

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[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

Wisdom is intelligence applied. Or perhaps, wisdom is the synthesis of intelligence.

Will Hunting starts out the movie with mad intelligence and little to no wisdom, and the movie is the story of him shifting from one to the other.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Most exams are measurements of neither. They're a test of knowledge.

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

You are technically correct. The best kind

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 86 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A clever fellow has a telescope. He sees what everyone else sees, but clearer and sooner.

A smart fellow has a microscope. He can see things no one else sees.

A wise man has a mirror.

[–] Napster153@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Plato is still alive, but it's no longer considered a planet.

s/

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No, silly, plato means dish in Spanish.

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[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not as long as you can see his shadow

But if you do, that means we'll have 6 more weeks of winter.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cloak of Wisdom: β€œShould’ve got the Cloak of Knowledge.”

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cloak of Knowledge: "Should've got the Cloak of Understanding"

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

End result is him walking into the next test with fifty cloaks on.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"should have got the Cloak of Encumbrance"

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Gonna need a Cloak of Cooling with all those layers

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Poor planning. Should have tried the cape on in advanced, it would have told him to study when there was still time.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But that would require the wisdom of forethought in the first place.

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Or just curiosity

But then again, curiosity and wisdom often come as a package

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Typical brothers, gives you his cloak of wisdom instead of his cloak of knowledge. Never again Dave, that broke the centuries of trust we had built.

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's, Dave, man. Open up, I think the cops saw me come in here.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

Before exam - Scumbag Brain: Bro I got you, come on let's go grab a drink!

During exam - Scumbag Brain: Dude they totally didn't cover any of this shit.

After Exam - Scumbag Brain: Oh hey buddy, you know all those answers you were looking for, here you go! Wow dude, you fucked up MAJOR.

[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Is it exceedingly uncommon to just read the material, not study beyond that, and still test well?

[–] usrtrv@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Math and physics (or any subject that requires calculation) usually requires practice. Applying the knowledge in a short timeframe is different skillset then just having the knowledge.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That being said, for some people in STEM the homework is >90% of the practice that you need to pass the exams.

That is, unless it's a topic that's mainly memorization like medicine or organic chemistry

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[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not everyone learns the same way. Some people require tedious study to get the information to stick, while others can grasp the concepts and retain information when first presented.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The valedictorian of my high school class was one of the dumbest people I've ever met, but she spent an inordinate amount of time studying so she could regurgitate it on a test without actually understanding any of it.

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[–] Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

It depends on the subject and the style of the test, imo. If it's conceptual, then yeah that's probably enough. If there's problems to be worked out, then it helps to some practice problems imo.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A cloak of knowledge would've been useful. Or if they are practical problems on the test, a cloak of intelligence.

But considering this guy isn't smart, he probably thought wisdom and intelligence are interchangeable. XD

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Get cloak of trickery instead, for cheating reasons.

[–] fiatcode@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

bro should borrow cloak of intelligence instead

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I feel like the cloak would also let you see patterns how like most multiple choice questions involve two similar answers, one very wrong one, and one that would be correct if you do a single thing wrong.

Or help you do the kind of bullshitting that written response tests generally require. You know, without actual subject knowledge

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 1 week ago

"It's all good. I have a +15 to Knowledge checks."

rolls a nat 1

[–] jeniferariza@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

+10 wisdom, -100 regret 😭 the stats checked out way too late.

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