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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

While I don't want to spoil the joke (but I will) and I hate techno-optimist solutions that displace actual solutions for our biosphere: supposedly, Belgrade is such a dense concrete hell that trees aren't viable solution (at least in the short term).

There is some rumbling that liquid trees are not the solution to the real problems caused by large-scale deforestation, nor does it reduce erosion or enrich the soil. However, much of this wrath is misplaced as Liquid tree designers say that it was not made as a replacement for trees but was designed to work in areas where growing trees would be non-viable. Initiatives like Trillion Trees are laudable, but there is something to be said for the true utility of this tiny bioreactor. The fact that they can capture useful amounts of carbon dioxide from day one is another benefit for them. Such bioreactors are expected to become widespread in urban areas around the world as the planet battles rising carbon levels in the atmosphere.

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[–] tostiman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

They can thrive in tap water and can withstand temperature extremes.

So maybe they can be used in regions that are too hot for trees, like desert cities

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And for people who think that the trillion tree idea is anything else than just the oil lobby running with a feel good solution, I have a great podcast episode for you

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3AZIvnCFvavc9Qfs10XPxW

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Spotify doesn't work on my phone. Care to link the podcast page on a platform not trying to corner the market, please?

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[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If it's actually more efficient then trees, could be a good idea. Saw a 51/49 video where he explained the urban development in the US requiring only male trees be planted leads to increased pollen levels and has made the "allergy season" 30+ days longer over the past 50 years or so.

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[–] veggibles@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 year ago

Back when I was a kid, trees still lived under water.

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I discovered when I joined a volunteer litter-picking group in my town that some people really hate trees. And I must emphasise HATE. They hate the shade they cast in summer, the way the leaves block the all-important View. They hate the fallen leaves in autumn. They hate the bare branches in winter. They hate the risk of branches falling in storms. They hate the racket the birds make. I was astonished - it never occurred to me that people would feel so strongly.

Turns out I'm a bloody tree-hugging extremist.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago

Trees won't get some tech bros bought out by Google.

[–] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

All these braindead silicon valley tech bros trynna reinvent existing solutions to problems in very expensive and unnecessary ways, marketing it as "revolutionary" and "groundbreaking"

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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ITT: People who looked at some random headline, didn't bother looking further and assumed they knew everything.

It's a stupid headline. These tanks, are to directly affect air polution/quality in urban areas. Trees are terrible at that. The microalgae is 10-50x more effective in cleaning the air.

They aren't going to rip out trees for these. It would have taken you 10 seconds to find the source of the image and the article from 3 years ago to find out, the social media post was misleading. You spent more time making incorrect and wild accusations.

[–] Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even with the misleading headline, has nobody commenting about how bad it is ever seen how many trees die when set up in low light conditions? These can be used in places trees wouldn't be effective, and that's before the whole "they're better at cleaning the air" bit.

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[–] rivvvver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

im guessing "where will the animals go" is also a stupid question?

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, where do I find the shade?

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You will shelter next to the goo tank and you will like it.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only until a person who is unhoused tries it and they decide to install spikes all the way around.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Liquid thorn trees!

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Exactly what I love about the Seattle tree coverage. So much shade.

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[–] wiccan2@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I would guess into the tree soup.

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[–] bratorange@feddit.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Like I always think that people don’t get one thing about trees in a city. There purpose is is not about co2. The co2 reduction of city trees is neglectable. The reason you need them in a city is temperature regulation, shade, air quality, mood, the local eco system and maybe solidifying unsealed ground. Putting these tanks in a city is laughably inefficient w.r.t. co2 conversion if you compare this to any effort to do this in instustrial capacity ( which is is also still laughably inefficient)

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[–] shrugs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

let me introduce you to this: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/robo-bees-could-aid-insects-with-pollination-duties/

humans are crazy. You want to know whats wrong with trees and bees? It's pretty hard to make a profit of them

[–] Steve@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

Nothing to manufacture, very little maintenance. Trees took our jerbs.

[–] loomy@lemy.lol 0 points 1 year ago

Trees arent liquid

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Has the manufacturer even calculated how much energy is needed for production and how long it will take for the corresponding CO2 emissions to be amortized?

We are living in strange times...

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

And trees that are planted in cities are not seeded. They are grown in a forestry until they reach a certain height. And then dug up with machines transported with machines and then planted with machines. The CO2 produced to plant a single tree also takes quite a while to be absorbed by that tree.

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[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Insert random copypasta about biotech breakthrough that turns water and CO2 and nutrients into sustainable building materials which sounds like space age technology but it's just trees

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Real answer is probably that they'd be used in addition to trees, designed to fit in places unsuitable for a tree.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago

Yes. Algae is better in absorbing co2 than tree, but tree is important as a shade and creating a cooling effect for the surrounding. Both is important for different thing and combine it you get the best of both world, especially in a lot of urban area where planting big tree isn't possible

Like walls of high-rises.

[–] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

This. Trees (especially large ones) are a pain to irrigate properly, might not be drought-resistant, grow very slowly until they reach their full potential at removing CO2, interfere with infrastructure that we humans are used to (piping, electricity, telco), roots break up pavements, branches can be a hazard after storms, fruit might attract rats, ...

I'm very much pro trees (despite what I've listed in the first paragraph), but I'm sure there are places in cities where you can't plant trees but could put up algae tanks.

If you understand German (specifically Austrian dialect) you might like this podcast episode about challenges and methods to overcome them in the context of greenery in the city of Graz:

Simple Smart Buildings: Bäume in der Stadt

Webseite der Episode: https://podcasted3e6b.podigee.io/153-baume-in-der-stadt

Mediendatei: https://audio.podigee-cdn.net/1742586-m-9ecab280e580cd07f75c83ed9379b970.mp3?source=feed

TL;DL of this episode: it's not as simple as "just plant more trees".

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Upkeep costs. Oh, wait.

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