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Russia fucking with the whole world out of an inferiority complex fuelled envy? Then yes.
Does taking out your anger on random civilians help?
As of May 3, citizens travelling back to Russia and Belarus must have documented a valid reason for additional trips within the three month timeframe.
"Well you shouldve thought of your cousins wedding before going to your nephews birthday"
Like imagine being able to visit your own country 4 times a year and every other visit can be denied by some disgruntled bureaucrat who doesn't think visiting a wedding is a valid reason.
Genuinely how does this help anyone except just hurt russians. Reeks of russophobic "cruelty is the point".
Have you considered complaining about Russia ruining international relations with their neighbors, which has led to this situation? It's not like those countries have a fundamental hatred of Russia. They would love it if Russia could be a normal ally because it would be immensely beneficial. It's Russia who can't be a fucking normal ally. It's not Lithuania who is building spy networks in Russia or bribing corrupt officials, it's Russia doing those things to Lithuania. And not just Lithuania, it's all Baltic states and Poland and Russian money goes even deeper into Europe.
It sucks for Russians that Lithuania has done this but it's ultimately Russia's own fault Lithuania had to do this. If there's anyone you or Russians should blame, it's Russia. You can't just push countries around and expect them to not do anything about it.
Yes, better getting invaded than slightly inconvenience people. /s
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How do you know they are random civilians?
Keep in mind there is some rather interesting research on attitudes towards the full scale invasion of Ukraine among russian-speaking individuals in the Baltic nations.
Because it targets every Russian and Belarusian citizen.
All concepts are made up, thats what makes them conceptual. Whether or not theres hate involved well.... I've seen the language used here
So what that it targets every russian citizen? When you have a county where 85% support annexations and invasions of your neighbour, this is a reasonable approach.
With this topic as well there is some great research with preference falsification testing which is damning for the russians. So don't bring up the old canard about "they are all afraid!!!!"
That's a cop out on your part. Russophobia as parroted by russians is more of a propaganda polemic. When you have a society defined by genocidal imperialism, it is reasonable to take a sober attitude towards them.
Okay so we went from "how do you know it targets random civilians?" to "So what if it targets random civilians?" well at least you're being honest about your disregard for them I suppose... Really feeling the sober attitude.
I would love to see that statistic where 85% of Russians in Lithuania support annexation or invasions of Lithuania, it's gonna be a wild read I'm sure.
You can look up polling of russian language users in the Baltics regarding the full scale invasion of Ukraine. It is easy to find. Not a very good result for your argument.
Whether you poll russians in russia or russian in other countries, the results are damning. This also applies to other research methodologies (both quantitative and qualitative).
It's a fucking stupid attitude to actively enable those who wish you harm.
Btw, your not doing the russians any favour by spreading their victimhood narratives.
You can look up polling of russian language users in the Baltics regarding the full scale invasion of Ukraine. It is easy to find. Not a very good result for your argument.
But we're talking about Lithuania. That's the thing, before you cite a national security threat to strip away a lot of peoples freedom there should be a credible threat to the security of your nation. Making it based on someones passport is just ineffectual as well. Just a "well they attacked them so it stands to reason they'll get us next". Why arent kazakhstan, turkmenistan etc reacting the same way? They should be more afraid since Russia would have a much easier fight against them I'm sure.
And still how is allowing them to visit their home country only 4 times a year except for business trips and other odds and ends gonna help anything even if there were such a threat? There is no point to this law other than to target russians.
Btw, your not doing the russians any favour by spreading their victimhood narratives.
It's not just a "narrative" if there is a law that specifically targets russians!
The chauvinistic attitudes of russian speakers in the Baltic nation toward the full scale invasion of Ukraine is very much reflective of their treasonous nature.
If you have even a modicum of exposure to russians (and you're arguing in good faith), you would know that reconquering the Baltic nations is something that is very much in line with their goal and attitudes.
Kazakhstan very much understansd the nature of russians and have built out bridges with China (that is de facto putting a veto on further russian expansion in central Asia), while also getting rid of the legacy russian genocidal imperialism.
Regarding, Turkmenistan, it might help for you to open a map of Central Asia.
You talk big about credible threats and so on; but who the fuck are you to define what is a credible threat for Lithuania? The Lithuanian government should prioritize the security and well being of their citizens.
Are you going to be joining EU battalions if the Baltic nations do get invaded by the russians? Of course not!
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"Cruelty is the point" isn't russophobic. It's at the core of every conservative and far right ideology. That very much includes genocidal fascist states like Russia or Israel
If you're being cruel to russians because you fear some invasion, even though there are no hints that anything of the sort is happening, in a way that wouldn't even hinder such a made-up invasion then its pointless. And pointless cruelty targetting russians is russophobic.
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If they want to visit all those exciting events in "their own country", they might as well move back there. Surely the cost of living in Russia will be lower than in EU. Unless they don't actually want to live in Russia, they just want to love it from afar.
Imagine living in a neighboring country for work but not being able to take your kid to see their grandparents more than 4 times a year.
Or marrying a foreign national and living with them or any of the myriad of other reasons that makes someone move to another country. But your limited imaginination can only come up with one scenario and therefore it must be the only reason for why a (bela-)russian might not live in their home counrty.
Go back to where you came from if you like it so much
a european liberal
Oh, so we're going straight to insults to my mental state, huh. I wonder why your unlimited imagination still struggles to understand why it might not be a good idea to visit a country at war often. Especially a country that's broken every truce that it ever promised to uphold and still aims to expand its territory to former imperial ambitions.
And here I was thinking I shouldn't judge one account just because they have a hexbear alt.
as if you started with a civil and restrained tone lmao
I wonder why your unlimited imagination still struggles to understand why it might not be a good idea to visit a country at war often. Especially a country thatβs broken every truce that it ever promised to uphold and still aims to expand its territory to former imperial ambitions.
I assume visiting the US or Israel is still a-ok though?
And here I was thinking I shouldnβt judge one account just because they have a hexbear alt.
I keep forgetting hexbear is (used to be?) an alt and that I was saying the same shit like you all... How time flies π€·
I assume visiting the US or Israel is still a-ok though?
No, no it's not. Though you do like to assume a lot, it seems
Well I'm not seeing any such laws being put up, hence my assumption. So either this isn't the actual reason for that law, or the lithuanian government is comically inept.
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Sounds like the answer to all of them is the same as the guy you're replying to mentioned: they move back to Russia, or stay in Lithuania. Choose and commit. Sorry that you're losing out, but Lithuania doesn't owe you anything.
If my country started fucking with a neighbour, I wouldn't blame them for pushing against it. Also seems like plenty of Americans who are against Trump seem to be all for other countries countering.
So abandon your work, force your lithuanian spouse to move, uproot your kids or see your extended family almost never again. Sorry you're losing out bud sucks for you I guess, not Lithuanias problem though we just make the laws forcing you to choose.
Also seems like plenty of Americans who are against Trump seem to be all for other countries countering.
Plenty of Americans against Trump are still not opposed to the genocide in Gaza. There's a significant portion of Against Trumpers who were on board with the Iraq invasion, Liz Cheney comes to mind for instance. Here's a protip: If the americans want you to fight a war its not because they care for you...
edit: still waiting on a reason for how this helps lithuania even if there were a national security threat
Yes, actually. Believe it or not, every Russian and Ukrainian had to make that choice already, and WITHOUT the 1 in 3 months visit option. This is a pretty small problem by comparison. Also, nitpick, but doesn't a couple eventually move into one place anyway?
Plenty of Russians are still not opposed to the war with Ukraine. I suppose we're at a standstill, then.
As for pros of doing so, the article says it, potential sabotage. We already have had troubles at the Poland/Belarus border for years, so this seems fair to me. Could also be specifically preventing Russians working in Lithuania and then heading back to take advantage of/boosting Russian economy.
Yes, unironically.
If you think you should be allowed as a russian to live in a country russia is engaging in psyops, social destabilization, and some cases even open warfare against, you should be fucking forced to decide. Do you want to stay where you are and have been welcomed despite all your country's bullshit then do so and blame your relatives at home because they don't make it stop. Blame yourself as well because you dodged that bullet for a good life elsewhere.
All more logical and reasonable than to expect your host country to roll over and take it for your convenience, especially when most of the russians living elsewhere are just as indoctrinated as those at home and are often willing assets for the russian hybrid campaigns, espionage and sanction evasions. No victim nation of russian aggression can he faulted for trying to protect themselves from a new kind of warfare.
Russians that wholeheartedly condemn what their country is doing probably aren't travelling that often to russia, for fear of being arrested. Thus, the ones regularly crossing the border are likely the ones that either support russia, or are suspiciously silent. Obviously, these are people we don't really want in the country anyway, because they're terrible people. That's before we bring in the security aspect of allowing russians that are supportive of a potential invasion of the country to stay in the country. Those people are a sabotage and intelligence risk.
Any russian that doesn't explicitly oppose the current russian regime is complicit. Even more so if they live in a country with free speech. There are plenty of videos online where you can see the preferred methods of dealing with russians engaged in invasions - why not extend the treatment to those supporting them?
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Stop watching RT, no one has an irrational fear for Russia.
They do casually joke about invading Europe on national TV
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Fuck off and go live in your shit-fest if you dont like it.
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At least one member of the EU has balls.
I dunno chat, as a Lithuanian (as if it matters) this feels like a bit of an over reach in a war on terror in US type of way. This isn't the only law that explicitly targets Russians/Belarussians as a security threat that has been enacted.
These people are often just nationals, citizens of their country and not automatically foreign agents. If they were here doing espionage, they would report back using encrypted channels on the internet which is much cheaper than traveling back and forth. If they were smuggling tools for terrorism like bombs, it's much easier to smuggle them over the border or even obtain them locally than having the foreign agent themselves smuggle.
I can't help but view it as discriminatory in a similar way how Muslim and Arab populations were treated post-9/11, it just doesn't make much sense unless I'm missing something.
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Bunch of fascists
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