memes

that's what i miss about suspense movies. it's like music. it's the communal "guess where this is going if you don't already know it" game

Nah, the Lysandreoth archetype is more like "Me on my first playthrough and realizing most of his lines are hints" territory. I genuinely thought Pokémon X and Y would have a twist that Lysandre isn't the villain because his dialogue is so agonizingly unsubtle. I was trying to parse it for subtle hints that he was secretly good.

Edit: Apparently TV Tropes calls this trope "obvious Judas" (which is much more immediately understood but way less funny than "Lysandreoth").

Actually more like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmQWH7P0gIE

This was intentional. Micah is antagonistic towards you from the get-go, Dutch begins to turn on you while you start to agree with Arthur (Dutch sounds less reasonable etc) . By the time you get to the island you are meant to be frustrated, tired from trying to "just finish the damn game" and you're stranded with the 4 people you (the player) like the least - right after at least 2 of them bungled the heist in Saint Denis that got you in this mess. All the levels are just shooting gallery type beats to vent your frustration. There was a video on YouTube about emotional manipulation of the player that was a great write-up about this phenomena in RDR2, and why the ending mission American Venom feels so cathartic.

Edit: I actually found it! "Should Games Be Frustrating". The first 8-9 minutes are largely Red Dead 2 and trails.off with that theme of using frustration to funnel player emotion, so I dont think you need to watch the whole thing.

My first couple of re-runs, I was annoyed with him and would kill him on sight.

After a while (and in other games), I began to embrace the betrayal. Like, "Sure thing, bud. I'll go stand right over there by the cliff... Oh, you rascal, you." I realized it's more fun to go along for the ride.

Patches is like the reverse of this. He betrays you immediately but once he realizes you're not a greedy fool who'll go hollow at the first sign of failure he's chill.

I broke a player's brain in college playing DND where an NPC just lied to her.

She'd asked where so-and-so was. NPC didn't like her or her faction, so he just lied and said he'd taken up boxing. This isn't an especially credible lie because so-and-so was a lightweight nerd. But she says okay and goes tearing up the local boxing clubs, and can't find the guy.

She's like "where is he?"

Me: "you don't see him, and no one's even heard of him."

Her: "but the guy said he was here"

Me: "he did"

Her: "so where is he"

Me: "doesn't look like he's here"

Her: "but he said he was"

Me: "he did say that"

Her: "so why isn't he here?"

This went on for a while until one of the other players got impatient and said "the guy who doesn't like you maybe lied to you! Or was wrong! Can we move on please??"

Username checks out.

DUDE this came to mind too!! So creepy.

Such an awesome game series. Just finished 2.

i have rewatched true detective season 1 many many many times. good stores are meant to be re-experienced. The best ones are designed to be re-experienced over and over

And the game is really proud of it since they cut back in time to it immediately after the foreshadowed thing just in case you forgot.

What you're saying is lies, motherfucka!

You all thought it was the dancing bear >!bit it was me, Dio!<

For I am a master of deceptio-

The whole ending was the worst betrayal.

!It was all a dream!<