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Canada has had 100 per cent tariffs on all EVs imported from China since last October

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[–] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 58 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Seems like a no-brainer. Canada doesn't have an EV production to speak of. I believe it was originally done to support the U.S. EV industry, but do we really need to be doing that?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh, was it? If that was the only justification… yeah. Seems like a straightforward play.

[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Idk, US or US industry has a choke hold on politicians. I feel our politicians has no political will to negotiate against the US.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 10 months ago

Maybe the real "elbows up" was the useless neolibs we made along the way.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 10 months ago

made sense since us has 100% tariffs on chinese EVs , to prop up the overpriced US evs.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It might have been the only official justification. However I suspect that there’s unofficial ones, like “we are worried it’ll come with spyware that directly reports everything to China” or “if we do this we might becoming mainly dependent on Chinese cars, which then means China can pull them out from under us, maybe disable them remotely, etc”.

Depends on how much they thought this through and how much they trust China now and in the next few decades.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

cant be any worst than the spyware for the US govt.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago

Well ideally I suspect people would just want a product without the spyware.

[–] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I see your point, however, China is consistent, and it is not nearly so imperialistic as the United States. I'm not sure which one I trust less.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago

To me this is a difference between a chaotic type of untrustworthiness and a more stable type of untrustworthiness. Wouldn’t want to pick either if it can be avoided.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 25 points 10 months ago

Sounds like a win-win?

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm fine with that as long as ZERO personal info is transmitted to China.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Yeah.... about that

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

I can't understand why there is no law against that - at least give users a choice. This concern is valid for all cars, not only EVs and not only Chinese.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago
[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As long as they are safety rated for here i guess it's alright.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They export them in droves to Europe, and I'd be very surprised if there's a single thing on a vehicle which isn't regulated stricter in Europe than in North America. Maybe emissions in California? Not much emissions from an EV, though.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yuppers so that part would be fine. I'm not excited about more of my data being sold to another country/company though....

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Got bad news for you if you think any modern car isn't already doing that. :(

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Oh I know they are, another reason to keep my older vehicle running

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You think American cars aren’t doing that?

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

No, that's why I said another country/company

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They sell them in EU, that have higher standards than us.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even though EU has substantial tariffs on them. If we lowered the tariffs or eliminate them, we'd have dirty cheap cars and no more domestic car industry over night.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm asking this in honest curiosity. Do we have a domestic car industry anymore? Does a Can-Am Spyder count? I might just be tired this morning, but I can't think of a single Canadian car manufacturer of any volume right now.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah, sorry, I was referring to the EU, not Canada.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

I probably should have noticed that. I'll chalk it up to an early Sunday brain.

[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago