Do you suppose if we keep giving into the demands of a fascist that he'll stop making demands?
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I'm still convinced the app was a honey pot.
No one heard about it until media started reporting about it, then it took this long to take it down while Tim Cock was giving trump bribes. Like that cheap acrylic thing with 24k gold stand.
There was already a website that reported ICE locations without risk of sending your location to someone.
And a lot of heat is off the tyrannical applesque shit google is pulling with closing down android
If it were a honeypot, why would Trump tell Apple to remove it?
That trump asked to remove it is assumed by us.
It might as well be a security researcher contacting them or self censorship like Google is doing right now.
Yeah historically that seems to be how it usually works out
Ya it was called shazzeasement or something
Surely there are only so many demands he can make before he's fully satisfied, right?
Can't make demands if there's nobody left to make demands to.
You just painted an image in my mind. Imagine this: EVERY INHABITANT in the USA is finally so sick of Donny's shit, that we ALL leave, scatter across the world and make home anywhere else but the USA. Leaving Donny all alone to rule after abso-fucking- lutely no one. The ultimate fuck-you to Orange man.
I dont think your all welcome elsewhere...
It shouldn’t have been an app. It should be a website.
Lots of things are apps even though a website would have been good enough or better. It’s just insane these days.
Agreed. And those apps are nearly always just embedded web browsers!
Sure, the UI can be nicer on small displays, but the app tends to have fewer features than the site. Just don't see much real benefit in that.
These need to be WebApps people
And this is why your manufacturer entirely controlling what can be installed shouldn't even be legal, let alone default.
Exactly! If your app can be wiped off the face of the Internet on a moment’s notice, you’re clearly putting way too many eggs in one basket. Even a mobile friendly website would be good, but a proper web app would be so much nicer.
This would be cool - spread it across multiple platforms, repositories, ect. It'll be nearly impossible to get rid of as long as the API isn't targeted itself. Trusting apple/google is a losing game in the long run. FOSS
Honestly, it should be a Signal bot. Self hostable, or with a website somewhere outside the US run by someone who is never coming here, if your group is not into doing self hosting. We should be in this for the long haul and encouraging good practices, I think. It freaks me out that people are using Reddit for 50501 and putting this stuff on their phones where they can see who has it installed.
I cannot tell you how many conversations I've had with people that work in tech, and theoretically (?) know some history about how things have come and gone - they might even remember things like AIM or Yahoo messenger, etc., might be aware, vaguely, about XMPP or Matrix or IRC, and yet....they rush to use wholly corporate owned and controlled things like Slack which does not have E2E encryption and probably never will, or Discord, or....
The problem with most of the "techbros" is that most people either don't know any history and are not encouraged to learn it, either, because, well, that's "old", so what could you possibly learn from it, or there is just so much hivemind thinking that even people that do know history tend to be fearful of bringing it up, else they look like they aren't "cool".
It's all rather embarrassing to watch, really, as someone that actively DID seek to learn from my elders in tech and have been doing this for decades. The overall industry seems to have the memory of a coked-up goldfish.
When you're comfortable, it's easy not to give a shit. "Maus" gives a pretty terrifying picture of hanging out with people like this, in 1930s eastern Europe, and their lack of concern.
I hear you. That network effect is insidious.
I really like tinkering with trying to make things a community would use. I have my home server, and I just set up a Luanti / Minetest server, and I want to dabble in MeshTastic, and get people to use Matrix and Signal instead of Discord.
....and then I just think nobody will bother anyway, so... :(
Sadly the bigtech powers have overcome the required "friction" of consideration and discernment when it comes to choosing how one communicates.
For anyone with any inclination to believe the marketing that megacorpos will stand for some kind of lofty techno-libertarian ideal of somehow standing up to strongmen tyrannical governments...
I wish to remind us all of how IBM acted in WWII
And on the surface, corporations pretended to have more respect and decorum back then! Now the mask is off and they know nobody will touch them.
The small price they have to pay to get NLRB complaints dropped and favorable tariff treatment, apparently.
It is astounding the rate at which companies and institutions are knuckling under. It hasn’t even been a whole year yet.
Apple cares about your privacy though. Every fanboy simp always says it, so it's definitely true.
No one cares about our privacy. Even us.
Joshua presented at this year's HOPE.
https://schedule.hope.net/hope16/talk/8Y9D9Z/
ICEBlock and the Age of Digital Activism
I don't think they have (yet?) sliced up their videos into separate talks, but it starts about here....the amount of questions/challenges about security was indicative of the community, I'd say.
We let our machines use us instead of using our maxhines. We assumed 'easy' was the same as 'good' and so are now fucked.
GAFAM will always bend to the dictator. It took 15 minutes for google to change its maps to "golf of america" because woke up and had this idea.
Bill Burr approved.