this post was submitted on 04 Jul 2026
1 points (100.0% liked)

Ask Lemmygrad

1356 readers
7 users here now

A place to ask questions of Lemmygrad's best and brightest

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Cross posted from https://lemmy.ml/post/49623403

Native americans had slaves? Do you have any references to put in perspective and counter right wing boot licking perspectives on this matter? Like the issue is feudalism and capitalism/imperialism at the core. Like the natives had conflict... possibly scalped a few but I think the right wing on behalf of their "Yes big daddy" capo corpo masters like to paint images of a past a skew.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Many indigenous societies practiced slave economies, regularly destroyed their own environment, waged brutal wars, massacred civilians, tortured captives, ritually sacrificed people, raped women, kidnapped children, performed cannibalism, and yes some even scalped people (though this one wasn't a native development but rather poetic revenge for colonists scalping them first) and other terrible things because they weren't oh-so-noble and honorable people who were somehow more moral than the colonizers. That perception of indigenous people is as much a racist stereotype as the ones that try to conflate all the above things with every tribe, city-state, nation, etc. and act like they were uniquely evil for doing these things and needed Good Christian Values™ to "civilize" them.

It is possible to recognize that these societies weren't perfect and to not romanticize them while also opposing their aggressive destruction at the hands of white supremacists, who either exaggerated their worst attributes or in some cases just made shit up to justify ethnic cleansing, segregation, and land theft. Whenever someone says something like "Native Americans owned slaves" it is not being brought up as a statement of fact or a tidbit of history but for the purpose of driving a wedge between indigenous and black people; just as when people bring up the Buffalo Soldiers and other black units that helped terrorize indigenous communities. They aren't mentioned these things in good faith, they're being racist and trying to turn marginalized communities against each other to keep them divided. Reactionaries do this because they fear a united front. This is an example of how identity politics get weaponized against the Left.

[–] demeritum@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Exactly. Rehumanizing the oppressed means allowing them to have the complex agency humans possess.