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Native americans had slaves? (lemmy.ml)

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Cross posted from https://lemmy.ml/post/49623403

Native americans had slaves? Do you have any references to put in perspective and counter right wing boot licking perspectives on this matter? Like the issue is feudalism and capitalism/imperialism at the core. Like the natives had conflict... possibly scalped a few but I think the right wing on behalf of their "Yes big daddy" capo corpo masters like to paint images of a past a skew.

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[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Also, the idea that the Aztecs sacrificed 150,000 people in a week (seven days) is bunk.

Sacrifice did not happen like it did in Apocalypto or whatever.

There certainly wasn't a goddamn line for it. Nobody was literally lining up to be sacrificed.

[–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You are correct, but to nitpick a little:

Apocalypto takes place in Maya territory, not in the Valley of Mexico. Though the depiction of sacrifice here is still inaccurate as the Maya didn't perform nearly as many sacrifices as the Aztecs did - I think they only ever did one per ritual or something like that.

IIRC the creators' rationalization was that people were scared and angry and the ruling elite were trying to calm them by just lopping off as many heads as possible out of desperation because of how bad things were, which from a narrative standpoint does kinda work but also would've made more sense in the context of Aztec society than Maya society and still feels more like it was more for dramatic effect rather than trying to be true to history. Not an impossible development but a very unlikely one.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No i get that

but it was literally made by a huge Christian evangelical and anti-Semite

Also, common, copious amounts of body-piercings? On virtually everyone? That many?

And the shining light on the Spanish ships?

idk dawg...

[–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's been a while since I've seen it but I don't remember the piercings being outrageous.

As for the final scenes with the Spanish galleon I have to disagree with the common critique. Neither scene felt hopeful or uplifting when I saw them. I felt the opposite, actually. It felt like the quiet death blow of a civilization - not the salvation of Christ coming to save souls.

But again it's been a while since I saw it.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe I just don't like that guy lol

[–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fair. He's a nutter for sure.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 days ago

absolutely

great actor for his time

but that's about it