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[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ukrainian authorities verified the identities of 19k children

Yes, exactly my point, this information comes from the Ukrainian government.

Russian authorities claim upwards of 700k

This comes from a passing remark by a Russian propagandist on Russian national TV, isn't that just Russian propaganda? The whole angle that Russia is using to justify the invasion internally is the supposed genocide of ethnic Russians at the hands of the Ukrainian government in eastern Ukraine, of course they make shit up about saving children from the enemy for the propaganda value.

I'm not sure why you're disputing the fact this is happening

Because without independent journalistic reports and investigations I don't take such strong accusations seriously. Time will prove me right when all of this is over, as it does time and time again to those who try to look beyond western imperialist propaganda.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm very doubtful about you being proven right here, since both Russia and Ukraine claim it's happening. It's published Russian policy. It's unlikely Russia's propaganda number is true (hopefully at least), but imo it's undisputed that it is in fact happening. UN investigators also have stated that this is going on.

Like, this isn't just accusations, Russia confesses to doing this.

Do note that some of these children have been returned, apparently up to 2100 from what I could find.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Children have been extracted from the warzone by Russia and taken to Russia, my point is that the Ukrainian government figures aren't verified.

I don't mean that this hasn't happened as an isolated incident, I just mean there's not substantial evidence of a consistent policy of child kidnapping and forced Russification on the scale that the Ukrainian government claims (with obvious propagandistic effects).

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Who needs evidence when the accusations align with my preconceptions? /s