Conservatives, both Canadian and American, operate in a post-truth mindset where facts no longer matter. Their manufactured hatred for "the other side" will drive them to act entirely against their own interests and wellbeing entirely out of fear or just to spite their perceived foes. This is further amplified by the conservative tradition of attacking education and free press so people can't even learn the truth if they wanted it.

We can see it very clearly with the MAGA cult in the US. They are in so deep that the only way they will ever get their heads out of their ass is to lose everything they've ever held dear and even then it might not be enough.

[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 13 points 3 months ago

I know. Fuck this world, but I know.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 months ago

They need to be what gets lost.

We need to bring the consequences to them. If these elections are not being cheated, then democracy is failing. Our choice is, we accept it and become the victims in a world of stupid brutes or we do what’s right for the future of whoever had children.

Living in their future is worse than death and death is coming regardless. The choice is clear.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How is it not obvious that either 1: they are rigging shit and simply not allowing us to actually win and/or 2: people are actually too fucking stupid to understand that FOR PROFIT ANYTHING will cost more money.

Like it has to be 1 because i refuse to believe everyone is this fucking stupid. We are past the ballot box.

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

The funny thing is that a lot of Conservatives think that the profit motive + free market efficiencies will reduce costs, and that public systems are full of lazy incompetents who are wasting taxpayer dollars.

And... They're not entirely wrong, either. And I say this as an educated NDP voter. They're mostly wrong, because of many factors that mostly boil down to 1%ers building laws and systems to further concentrate wealth. And that wealth they're hoarding is from profit motive leading to lower costs and the free market increasing efficiency... And also from profit motive leading to higher prices and that most of the reduced costs aren't efficiencies, they're cutting corners to deliver inferior services.

But their world view:

Makes sense
Is simple
It's internally consistent and coherent
It's supported by lots of research (mostly in theoretical economics, mind you...)
Blames "others"/outsiders for their problems
Etc. etc. etc.

There's a reason uneducated, young, white, male voters are flocking to the Cons. The Left's answers are, by comparison, complicated and messy, with lots of grey area, and involve significant change to systems that have perpetuated white make privilege. So, even though uneducated white males would be far better off in a progressive world, it's much harder to convince them.