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The entire Israeli political spectrum is united in blasting Netanyahu for not continuing to attack Iran, and Israeli society agrees. The reason, to put it simply, is that Israelis are war junkies.
Hasbara bot.
Let's test that hypothesis - is there anything I can say that will make you think I'm not a bot nor getting paid to post this?
If you're not a bot or getting paid, you should be. It might be worse if you're supporting genocide pro-bono.
Now now, that's not in the the Lemmy spirit. https://lemmy.world/post/45328499
I hope you have to explain yourself to murdered children in the afterlife.
I don't, those children suffered enough.
(CerealKiller01 would like to take this opportunity to say he doesn't take lightly the murder of children, but he also doesn't appreciate using murdered children as a rhetorical device)
"Rhetorical device?"
This is what you're justifying right now.
If that's a photo of what your implying, I sincerely hope the family allowed for it to be used like this.
My guess is that you have no idea and the thought didn't cross your mind.
Go fuck yourself. "I hope the family allowed for it to be used like this." You allowed it to be used like this by creating it.
That's from the school in Iran that was bombed. But it's fine, I guess! Iran said mean things about Israel, after all! Also, Iran may have been trying to get a deterrent, so obviously we had to kill their schoolchildren over it!
What the fuck is wrong with you? Your war is literally proving that the things they say about Israel are correct and that they were justified in seeking a deterrent.
The school in Iran was bombed by the US, and while I don't deny the IDF has done similar things (and I'm honestly not condoning them for it), blaming this specific bombing on Israel it very close to a blood libel.
Assuming you're from the US, this is more on you for electing Trump.
"Um, actually it's kind of antisemitic for you to be upset about murdered children." Do you Zionazis not have another line? That rhetoric has been abused so opportunistically that it's done. I don't give a single solitary shit if you call me an antisemite for not wanting murdered children.
Follow your leader, Nazi scum.
I have plenty of them, like, as I said earlier, the fact that Israel didn't bomb that school. It's just that you chose to comment only on that one.
Israel and the US are birds of a feather. Whenever I criticize the US role in this shit, people blame Israel. Now I'm criticizing Israel's role and you're trying to blame the US. It's a completely meaningless distinction, they're in bed together and they do all this shit together. You're just playing debatebro and latching onto whatever bullshit you can find to try to label me as antisemitic like you Zionazis fucks always do.
You treat this like some kind of fucking game with your smuglord shit. Fuck off back to Reddit, asshole, no one wants you here.
Oh, I must have missed all the comments calling every America a nation comprised entirely of Nazis and war junkies, let me double check... no, still can't find them. Weird.
No, what you're now doing is throwing insults at me. There's no actual criticism, you just decided Israelis are demons from hell, and are enraged someone is trying to show they're human beings.
I'm disagreeing with the conclusion of the opinion piece this post is about and trying to have a normal talk about it in order to understand how you view things.
You've shown a picture of a bombing made by the US and are blaming it on Israel. It's not some small minor detail.
I really wasn't, I was giving you a chance to correct yourself. All you had to say was "OK, that was the fault of the US, my bad for mislabeling the image. Of course I wasn't trying to say Israel is controlling the US". Maybe throw in a "That said, Israel has also bombed schools and hospitals". Granted, that takes a bit more effort than calling me a Nazi for the 14th time and would require you to have just a smidge of self criticism.
Right, God forbid you might encounter a different opinion. Don't forget to make fun of Republicans for being willfully stuck in an echo chamber.
I didn't say Israel didn't do anything wrong or that it's all the Palestinians fault. I just said the reason Israelis want to destroy Iran's missile and nuclear programs is mainly because they are genuinely afraid Iran is developing said programs to be used against them, and that fear isn't unreasonable. You're acting like even considering this possibility is the same as being pro-genocide.
America has plenty of Nazis and war junkies, but at least in this particular case, most people are opposing the war.
It's very rare for that to happen. When the US invaded Afghanistan, Bush was sitting at around a 90% approval rating. A strong majority of Americans supported invading Vietnam. US military spending is higher than the next nine countries combined, a fact which I harp on constantly. Even so, it's simply factual that Israelis are much more supportive of the Iranian War and the genocide in Gaza than Americans are. So you're wrong on two counts, first that Israelis are more bloodthirsty than Americans (facts are not antisemetic, btw no matter how much you don't like them), and second that I do frequently criticize Americans for being bloodthirsty.
It is a minor detail. An incredibly minor, insignificant detail. The US and Israel are in this war together, it's a joint operation. Both commit frequent atrocities. You even acknowledge the fact that Israel has bombed schools and hospitals, which means there's zero actual point to the distinction you're making.
It's pure bad faith, hasbara tactics. You're latching on to whatever insignificant detail allows you to defend Israel and denounce it's critics as antisemitic. You're completely full of shit.
What about Iran? Do Iranians get to be afraid of Israel's nukes? Why does the "reasonable" fear only go one way? Israel is an extremely beligerant, genocidal, expansionist, nuclear armed country. Iran is none of those things.
But people like you don't consider Iranians to be human beings. White people get to have "reasonable" fears. Brown people get their faces shoved into the dirt, their children slaughtered, and anything short of "thank you sir, may I have another?" is labelled as antisemitism by you fucks. You lost every ounce of credibility the moment you dropped that "blood libel" accusation. Fuck off.
You're jumping from "The US and Israel are the same" so you can blame Israel on something the US did, and "Israel is worse" when asked why you aren't judging them equally.
If you would actually try to understand what I'm saying, you could see I'm not defending Israel, but defending Israelis.
I didn't say you were antisemitic, I said one of your arguments is very close to an argument used by antisemites. I also tried to address said argument regardless, which blows a hole through the argument I'm trying to deflect criticism.
Of course they do. And if a survey showed that most Iranians support a war with Israel, I wouldn't try to paint them as war junkies. I already said as much regarding Palestinians here. Though I have a feeling Iranians are probably more afraid of getting gunned down at a protest or being beaten for not covering their hair. It's a good thing that isn't Israels doing, otherwise you'd have to show the same moral outrage for that too.
All parties involved (Iran, the US and Israel) are in this situation because each country is led by corrupt idiots, religious nuts and egomaniacs that think using violence will help them stay in power. From those three, I give Iranians the most credit because they at least didn't vote for their psychos.
My turn to ask a question - What rights do the Jewish people get as far as living in a sovereign country? Or is any act of violence against any Jewish Israeli is justified? Before you'll try to twist my question - I'm not saying Israel is free to do anything, just asking if you think it's free to do something.
Please point out any credibility you were willing to give me before.
Say Israel is a settler colonial power created by ethnically cleansing Palestinians and want to exterminate Palestinians either for religious or ethnic reasons and that Israel should unconditionally end settler colonialism by getting out of the west bank, east Jerusalem, the golan height and shabaa farms
Oh, I get it, you don't actually think I'm a bot or that I'm payed by the Israeli government for this. a "Hasbara bot" is your way of de-legitimizing anyone who doesn't fully agree with your stance on Israel. Kinda like the equivalent of "everything I don't like is woke" for MAGA.
No we think a Nazi is a Nazi.
You (I'm guessing, but fell free to correct me): Israel writes off every piece of criticism as antisemitic! What a dirty, bad faith dishonest tactic!
You when someone says some criticism against Israel is incorrect: NAZI!!!
All you did was lying to make look like israel is defending itself agsinst the people it colonize.
Why are you unable to say what i told you to say.
You are acting like colonization being bad is a matter of opinion
Could you quote on lie I said?
(it might also worth pointing out Israel didn't colonize Iran)
Iran seeking nuclear weapons and israel attscking Iran to defend itself . That's two dirty lies
I back up the nuclear weapons claim with a reputable source, and never said Israel attacked Iran in self defense (What I said was it's reasonable for Israelis to support a war with Iran without being war junkies)
Your source did not say iran was seeking a nuke. American inteligence and the fatwa by the sepreame leader himself shows that your claim is a dirty lie repeated by Netenyahu for decades.
No it is not reasonable. It the same goddamn thing with different wording. Every single goddamn government of israel voted by Israelis supported colonization. Israelis knows really well that they want to destroy Iran as a state so it can start the greater israel project with zero resistance
You're right, it said "Iran’s advances included enriching uranium to 60 percent, a level close to weapons-grade that has no practical civilian application, and deploying advanced centrifuges that enrich uranium more efficiently." They're probably just doing it as a prank. Maybe they'll open the centrifuges and fake snakes will pop out of them.
Look, I gave several links to my claims. At the very least try and provide a source instead of repeating the same things.
Oh, awesome, the supreme leader of Iran pinky swore Iran isn't building a bomb.
They was at 60% for years so if they want it they would have it years ago. You just a zionazi who repeat Netenyahu and trump lies.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-21/donald-trump-says-tulsi-gabbard-wrong-on-iran-nuclear-program/105445142
The Arms control association seems at the very least as a good starting off source. If you disagree with their assessment, feel free to link to other sources. I'm sure you'll get on it right after the citation about the American intelligence.
Right, I'm the one just repeating things mindlessly. On an unrelated note, calling me Nazi Zionist colonialist liar for 10 times didn't really get you anywhere, but I have a good feeling about the 11th time.
Since 2021 they have 60% enrichment . Trump teared the deal in 2018. And again it do not prove Iran was seeking a nuke. It would have taken only three weeks to go from 60% to 90%. You just a zionazi repeating Israel lies and manufacturing consent for this war of aggression
Only a zionazi still claim iran was seeking a nuke when no evidence that shows it
Dude, that's hilarious, your own source disagrees with your conclusion:
"Iran has no civilian use or justification for its production of 60 percent enriched uranium, particularly at the level of hundreds of kilograms. Its rush to make much more, quickly depleting its stock of near 20 percent enriched uranium, which has a civilian use in research reactors, raises more questions. Even if one believed the production of 60 percent is to create bargaining leverage in a nuclear negotiation, Iran has gone way beyond what would be needed. One has to conclude that Iran’s real intent is to be prepared to produce large quantities of WGU as quickly as possible, in as few centrifuges as possible."
Not surprisingly, and in its understated style, the IAEA reiterated in this most recent report: “The significantly increased production and accumulation of highly enriched uranium by Iran, the only non-nuclear-weapon State to produce such nuclear material, is of serious concern.”"
Yes, yes, I know - zionazi, lies, Netanyahu etc.
It would have taken 3 weeks to build a nuke. They did not. That's the only fact , the rest is speculation. Zionazi. Why do you still can't admit israel is a settter colonial power attacking iran to start the greater israel project
OK, and your own source state that "fact" where...?
And why are you disregarding things that have been clearly stated in your source that disagree with you?
Also, by that logic, since it would have taken Israel a few weeks to murder the entire Palestinian population in Gaza and they did not, any claim that there's a genocide in Gaza is wrong.
And expert in the field can know how long it would take for a technical task to be done so when it says 3 weeks i believe it. Saying 60% of enriched uranium can't be used as a negociation tool is just speculation . If iran plan was to build a nuke and enrich to 90% american and israeli inteligence would have known about it. If iran wanted a nuke it would have done it , it is very logical since they was at 60% for years before the 12 days war
Show citations that:
Iran can get to 90% within three weeks.
That is the only thing stopping Iran from building a nuclear bomb.
Iran had the means to launch a nuclear bomb at Israel.
That is the only thing stopping Iran from being able to actually hit Israel with a nuclear bomb (hint: Israel has some experience at stopping Iranian missiles).
Iran views a nuclear bomb as their only option of annihilating Israel at this moment.
I don't know that they don't know about it. You're the one who said that the US intelligence believe Iran isn't aiming to build a nuke, but didn't provide any source to that claim. And if they did know about it, you would have called it speculation, like you did to the same statement that was brought up in you own citation that has also been made by experts in their field.
Also, why should we stop at 90%? If tomorrow we'll find proof Iran has enriched to 90%, you could claim "Well, they just enriched to 90% as a negotiation tool. Now they're putting the uranium in a bomb only as a negotiation tool. Look, they're putting the bomb on a missile as a negotiation tool, they clearly don't plan to actually use it. Now they're doing a countdown as a negotiation tool. Don't worry, they launched the missile, but it's just a tool to speed negotiations, they'll overshoot Israel and the missile will harmlessly hit the ocean".
By your logic, no one has any plan to do anything if they have the technical means to do so but didn't do it. Except even then you have a factual mistake, as 90% enriched uranium isn't the only thing Iran lacks to launch a nuclear missile.
Oh, and your claim is somewhat self-contradictory - If it's so clear Iran is enriching uranium as a negotiation tactic, doesn't that make the tactic pointless? Like, if I'm negotiating with someone and I make a claim that I clearly know the other side knows is false, how does that help my case? That's like Trump level negotiations, and Iran isn't that dumb.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/20/trump-says-us-intelligence-wrong-about-iran-not-building-nuclear-bomb
No I would not claim that. 90% is weapon grade enrichment, 60% is not
Before the usa started the second aggression on Iran. Iran was willing to agree for zero enrichment proving again the point . Iran only enriching to 60% after Trump teared up the deal and Iran agreeing to zero enrichment . Those two evidence shows that Iran did not seek a nuke but to negotiate. The failure do not prove that it was just an excuse by Iran
Sorry, "United States President Donald Trump has said..." isn't really a reliable source for me.
But 60% lacks any civilian uses, so the most obvious reason to go to 60% is because it's between 20% and 90%...
Now you're just switching arguments. That doesn't really address what I said about you argument being self-contradictory.
Anyway, I think I've learned all I can from you. Feel free to have the last word.
Yes trump is not a reliable source yet you agree with Him and spread his lie. The American intelligence is , it said Iran was not seeking a nuke
Again yes 60% for civilian has little civilian usage but can be used in negotiation
I did not. Those two arguments shows that Iran was not seeking a nuke but rather was willing to give up enrichment
I learned that you are a zionist scum trying to manufacture consent for the USA and Israel aggression on Iran