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I entered the world in January 2008, so it was a pretty big year for me. Hard to believe it’s been 18 years already.

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[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

In college, watching the industry I was getting a degree in tank (and many others). I chose the field in part because of historically good job stability and 95%+ job placement after college. That all evaporated. Folks who should have been retiring were having to work longer, leaving no room for fresh college grads.

I hope this AI crap resolves down to a more stable level. I'm concerned the folks in college now will have it even worse between another generational bubble working it's way through and now AI making things more "efficient" so fewer humans are perceived as necessary.

[–] droning_in_my_ears@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

This is what tech is like right now. I guess we should learn from your experience.

[–] confuser@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I think the right idea is that work should be automated away because the sole reason why people work at all besides for themselves is to make the economy function and so automating the boring work of making the economy function makes a lot of sense to do so that we can be freed up to play a different economy game that is about responsibility.

The pain point for the time being is that in the inbetween stages there isnt yet a clean way to make a hand off to that system so whenever something is automated it just leaves people high and dry

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There's a way. UBI. But there's no appetite for it because politicians and corporations don't make mad profits off it. Line must go up faster and faster each quarter; letting the poors die in debt does this better than providing them a basic income.

[–] confuser@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That is a good point, if partial economy is automated that leaves partial money available to handout as ubi.

I had dismissed ubi because that is something that would only happen if there is enough pain on the consumers for them to give handouts, I guess this did happen when covid started up but that wasn't seen as a similar function as ubi...which actually I read about some tests of ubi awhile back and they seemed to do what we think they do but the tests seem to make that not so obvious.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 2 points 6 months ago

We can actually concentrate the consumer pain on 1% of the richest population and hurt no disadvantaged children.

Dealing with mercenaries and police protecting them is usually the next hangup, unless you can get someone to pull it through on a charisma check. Without getting assasinated.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 1 points 6 months ago

I'm hungery as fuck to make this happen.

Definitely not a televisable opinion. Not on capital air time.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that LLMs aren't actually automating away any significant amount of work, just transforming it for some unlucky few (developing -> debugging slop), and fooling c-suites into laying off people for the funds to invest in the empty promises.

[–] confuser@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

For now, I think even if absolutely nothing changed with how they fundamentally worked from here on out and just kept throwing more money and data at them they could still actually automate some things away at some point, but they definitely will be also getting fundamentally better on top of this.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They're bullshit machines. They are specifically engineered to sound confident, with zero regard for correctness. They're inherently unsuitable for anything that doesn't need to be purposefully unreliable.

[–] confuser@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago

Sounds like a politician lol

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Going to assume that’s tech.

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Close. Engineering. Lots of engineers hung on 5-8 years longer than originally planned because their retirement plans got hurt so badly, which meant fewer jobs for fresh grad engineers to get hired on. I'm starting to see it again with colleagues who want to retire this year but are tacking on an extra couple because their finances aren't where they planned to have them.

Then I can get going about removal of pensions back in the day and expectation that people jump job to job to get pay increases instead of getting raises in-role that match let alone exceed inflation, incentivizing people to NOT stay with a company for long, leading to a shallow bench for the next line of leaders and experts. I'm mid-to-late 30s and am on my 4th company since college and 3rd job within current company; contrast that with my dad who worked for the same company for almost 40 years and holds as many patents for them and knew that company inside and out. I will never be as knowledgeable and efficient as he was. Where industrialization allowed specialization, it seems like we're actively pushing to go back to generalization where workers are replaceable with minimal changeover time.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 2 points 6 months ago

Almost every field.

Squeezing the retirement line was intentional. Every time it happens.

A lot of torches have been dropped instead of passed.

We wasted two generations.

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

industry I was getting a degree in tank

I was assuming tank was an autocomplete of tech. Now I really hope tank is an engineering major/discipline.

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 2 points 6 months ago

No, sadly "tank" is the action applied to "industry.

I watched the industry [...] tank.