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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Socialist countries do uphold that, though, to the extent physically possible. Soviet progressivism was documented quite well in Albert Syzmanski's Human Rights in the Soviet Union. Are you just opposing revolution, because overthrowing the capitalists, fascists, slavers and tsarists requires infringing on their rights? In that case, certainly you're upholding the systems that allow them to destroy human dignity each and every day?

[–] Dippy@beehaw.org 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So then what materially needs to be different for you to support socialism in real life over opposing it?

[–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I didnt oppose the socialism in the real world in the first place. I said i dont like some of them in the way they have behaved. They could behave differently, and then I would like them. They can reform and be better. But until they do, id rather not model other new things on them. And if a country gives kids free ice cream but shoots people every day, I can like that they give out free ice cream and hate the violence.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You've been vague and cagey, though. Nobody is saying that you have to support every single action imperfect countries take. How could socialist countries behave differently to the point that you would like them?

[–] Dippy@beehaw.org -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is social media, not a presidential debate stage. And all I started with was reassuring a fellow anarch communist that's its okay to want nice things. Im done playing 20 questions.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Everyone wants better, my issue is with letting perfect ideals be the enemy of real good.