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CIA deputy director’s son killed while fighting for Russia in Ukraine, investigation claims
(kyivindependent.com)
this post was submitted on 25 Apr 2025
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ummm, something doesn't compute
Some people consider Ukraine to be a neonazi stronghold. So fighting Ukraine would be fighting against fascist nazis. That logic is prevalent with conspiracy nuts/scammers like Alex Jones.
From the end of the article
Is that really so far off though?
You're a fucking moron.
Literally the bravest thing I've seen all week
Get bent you fucking Nazi shitbag
Yes you fucking cretin
Notice that the one US president who actually has been building concentration camps and operating the Gestapo, shares with you a strong dislike of NATO.
Read a fucking history book
Yes, very far off.
Yes
Not really. NATO had many ex top Nazis at the helm directly after world war 2. The line between Nazi Germany and NATO is very straight.
One of the most notable being top Nazi Adolf Heusinger https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Heusinger
Where the other guy went wrong is thinking that anyone opposing NATO in this case Russia suddenly becomes objectively good.
Yes, unless you ask a fucking idiot.
Average technocrit ragebait. Yawn.
Either extremely impressionable, or maybe had his account handed over after he was pulled off the street and conscripted into a ruzzian meat wave.
Either way, tragic waste of human life, being anywhere near involvement with their military.
Just look at ML or Hexbear right here on Lemmy. The tankies love Putin and Xi. Horseshoe is a law not a theory.
It's probably because USA is openly fascist while russia at least claims to oppose.
Even if that were true, what does that have to do with Ukraine?
But of course! Those poor Russians just had to do a whole invasion, entirely out of self defense!
NATO does not expand (invade to grab land), it is based on voluntary membership application (although it is not truly volunteer since they are being forced, antagonized to join due to russia expansionism). New members are only accepted through vote. "NATO expansion" is well known as putin/FSB propaganda meant for a certain naive audience.
NATO borders with russia are the most peaceful with the low number of russian troops. Internally, Russia is not concerned about NATO, a defense alliance since Russia has the highest number of nukes.
In the media, they will use NATO expansion propaganda because there are naive clowns and useful idiots who will believe in NATO expansion propaganda. Do remember russia was fine with Ukriane joining NATO, they saw they can use it as propaganda to justify russia expansionism. http://www.en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/21598.
Ukraine public support for joining NATO was in the minority before the war, and only after invasion it became majority. Even after Ukraine said they won't apply to NATO, russia didn't not stop its expansion because russia expansion has nothing to do with NATO.
In fact due to russia aggressive expansion even more countries applied to join NATO. Putin knew that russia expansion will encourage more to submit application to join NATO. Putin was warned to stop russia expansion as that just cause more to apply for NATO membership, it is open to anyone. Furthermore note that expanding russia territories just bring russia closer to NATO, increasing russia border with NATO. Clearly it is not about NATO.
Even, without using NATO, putin will come up with a new reason like nazis, terrorists or LGBTQ or WMDs or security issues ( a country with the most nukes in the world has a security issue? only naive clowns will believe that) or restoring empire/imperialism (which he admitted in interview with carlson) or all of the above each for a different audience. Whatever it takes to get crimea and its warm water ports, and later Donbas for a land bridge and to secure Crimea water supply. Eventually going all the way to Transnistria.
You think things are so simple as poor top nuclear powered russia who is scared of evil tiny Ukraine, for suggesting sending in membership application form to NATO. You are being naive at best. War does not work like a superhero movie.
NATO was created to protect small countries from russia expansionism and stop russia from antagonizing its neighbours.
Russia was even member of G8 until russia antagonized G8 members by invasion of Crimea. The only way a massive nuclear powered russia sees NATO as a "threat" is that NATO prevents russia from expansionism... from expanding russia territories.
Expansion (invasion to increase territories)? I think it is pretty clear that it is putin that is pushing for the expansion of russia empire, empire building into new territories.
The puzzling thing is why is Putin pushing/forcing more countries to sign up as NATO member instead of joining his own CSTO. Why is putin increasing its border with NATO and going closer to NATO, while spreading propaganda about NATO "expansion" when everyone clearly know that NATO is a voluntary membership system anyone can apply to join even russia.
Yea US should stop bombing and expanding into Greenland! I have condemned US many times. I won't trust words from CIA you are naive to trust words from CIA and FSB and ex KGBs like putin. If you hate US expansionism into Texas then you should hate russia modern day expansion into other countries, if not you are a hypocrite.
russia (and israel) is the only major country in modern time that is still invading/colonizing to expand its territories. Expanding its empire, russia is adding those new lands it conquered into its constitution.
FSB has been planning the conflict in Ukriane for a very very long time, notice all the failed russia coup attempts inside Ukraine. Sending terrorist, agent and operative into the Donbass region to destabilize the region.
That is also probably why they refuse to let Ukraine join NATO, If Ukraine was in NATO there would be peace in this region like the other NATO countries bordering russia. Russia don't seem to want peace even after trump made a peace deal. The real war in Ukraine has yet to start, russia is not done with its imperial expansionism and colonialism.
All the bombing and funding extremist and coups are stuff that both russia (with their FSB, Nazi wagner group and other nazi groups) and US does but US has yet to expand its territories in modern times.
Ukraine is the country being invaded. Russia is the one invading. That is as simple as it is. You invade = you are the aggressor = you are the evil one.
This is true in most cases. Unless you're the invader. There will never be an excuse to initiate an invasion.
Ukraine isn't America, and Russia invaded Ukraine, not America. You have no logic here.
Yes you have mentioned it. And I said "Oh no those poor Russian invaders".
The US isn't invading Russia. The only involvement the US has in the Russo-Ukranian war is in your head.