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Really no reason to even think about voting for Liberals now that the whole strategic voting thing isn't even plausible thing with the current polling.
Strategic voting is still totally a plausible thing in my riding. Conservatives are consistently at 40% or so voter count, so I either vote for the liberal candidate that has been able to beat the cons by 1%, or I split the vote and hand the cons another riding.
What does that change in the grand scheme of things.
In itself is strategic voting only about one election one riding at a time what about the nation and the future beyond 4 years?
Not giving the cons a federal government is the better of the long term strategies. We know the Conservatives want to emulate what's going on south of the border, and since I want to keep funding public services I'm going to swallow my pride and vote accordingly. Yes, an NDP win would be welcome, but I'll settle for a PC loss.
And I fucking hate it. I am in a solid blue riding, so it really doesn't matter who I vote for, I really wanted electoral reform like he promised.
Ehhh, it probably wouldn't actually inspire change, but it would be nice if the Liberals came in a very distant last in every riding they didn't have a chance at winning.
Just say you are a conservative.
Anything but. My comment would apply for the Conservatives too, although I wish they'd come last everywhere. It's just so frustrating seeing the map flip back and forth between red and blue when we have other viable parties.
Once again, I do not like any conservative party, can't overstate that enough, but look at the BC Cons. After decades of obscurity they sucked so much support from the other conservative party (BCUPs/Liberals) they just gave up and all but dissolved themselves. We need something like that for the center/left federally.
You mean the actual centrist party called the Liberal party of Canada?
I think you may be misunderstanding my point, but it would be great if the Liberal party dropped off and the NDP (or something new) completely replaced them as the counter to the Cons. Right now they seem to keep seats because they're not the Cons and I think the leadership confuses that with people liking them for what they do.
So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you want a centrist party (but not the one we have), and you want it to be more like a left wing party, which we have have several others that haven't reached prominence.
The Green party is more centrist than others with a desire to actually deal with climate change.
Yeah I think I have misunderstood your point because any centrist party is gonna end up sounding like the liberals and anybody as far left as the NDP are not centrist.
No, I was speaking more generally. When I said center/left I meant it in the way the ABC people use it. I don't like the Liberals, but I also do not want the Conservatives to win. Unfortunately that looks like where we're headed. I just hope that if the Cons do win (which once again I do not want but I have just 1 vote), the Liberals lose big and take it as a wakeup call to change or be relegated to the perpetual 3rd place party. None of those other posts were trying to say what party I would like, sorry for the confusion.
Ah, so because you don't like a party you want all of us to suffer to learn a lesson.
Dude, wake the fuck up, you're playing into the con's game.
Clearly I'm not good at articulating my point so I'm going to stop trying. I don't know what I'm saying that would benefit the Conservatives in any way. My riding is NDP with the cons playing catch up and the Greens have a better chance than the Liberals. So maybe we're just coming from different perspectives. Voting for Liberals here is a vote for conservative.
And here lies the crux of the problem.
Finally we can agree on something.