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What is Cyberpunk?

Cyberpunk is a science-fiction sub-genre dealing with the integration of society and technology in dystopian settings. Often referred to as “low-life and high tech,” Cyberpunk stories deal with outsiders (punks) who fight against the oppressors in society (usually mega corporations that control everything) via technological means (cyber). If the punks aren’t actively fighting against a megacorp, they’re still dealing with living in a world completely dependent on high technology.

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[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Go back and look at what people who spent hours in a gym per day looked like 50 years ago. Exercise hasn't changed, the only thing that has changed is what people take while exercising. It's even become common for people to admit they are taking steroids and not be ashamed of it anymore.

Back when this movie came out, that was a 4 hours a day gym body.

Our perspective and expectations of what is attainable steroid-free are so heavily skewed now. Like check out rock climbers, people that need to be both strong and flexible, so steroids aren't even an option for them. They can lift 150-200 pounds repeatedly for hours, and their arms look about like this guy in the movie. Then check out people that are just cultivating "big muscles" and compare what they can actually lift with those muscles. It looks ridiculous in comparison.

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago

I get what you're going for, 100% things have shifted. Absolutely true.

But I'm not taking steroids, and I'm not spending 4 hours a day at the gym, and I basically have the same arms as that guy. At least in this photo. Maybe he's more jacked than he looks in the rest of the movie, I haven't seen it in a while, and I don't have shredded abs or anything. I'm not impressively fit. But I have arms that look kinda like that.

I think you've taken the steroids thing, which again is a legit thing, and maybe swung fully in the other direction and decided any muscle at all is a modern creation? Some dudes have arms. Just, attached to their shoulders.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 8 months ago

I'm roughly as big as him and I don't spend four hours a day in the gym. Nor do I take steroids.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is a matter of efficiency. 4 hrs a day is high-intensity full body workout. If 4 hrs a day got you looking like that, you were not using your time efficiently. I guess, we need to define what you consider "going to/using the gym".

I'm just a guy who's been in some gyms, but most, normal dedicated people are in and out in about 2 hrs. They hit their target bodyparts and bounce. More than that and I'd assume you have to wait for machines, you're lazing around, or you're an athlete/in action movies.

And then, even beyond efficiency, it's about the body's ability to sustain any decent workout for 4 whole hours. The Rock might manage all that with the supplements he's taking and he still crams down thousands of calories to fuel himself. And none of these guys have the bulked weightlifter bodies.

Or they just run for 4 hrs. But I wouldn't really call that a "gym body".

If you have a source where these actors claim their physique is the result of 4 hrs of daily work in the gym, then I'll take up my complaint with them. But I'm gonna hard disagree every day of the week.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I just mean our perspective of what strong looks like has been so shifted by steroids becoming main stream.

Like this is a bit of an outrageous example, but pranks like this are only possible because people can't possibly believe one of the strongest people on the planet can look this small.

https://youtu.be/YFbdukrZZHc

Giant muscles isn't strong, giant muscles is just for show. And back then it wasn't common for actors to use steroids yet. He had to work for those arms, they may look small now, but they were alot of work back then.

Honestly, I don't know how many hours exactly, but it was more than people would think it was nowadays.