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[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Until I joined Lemmy I had no idea how militant vegans could be. I sorta just assumed they were a different brand of vegetarian.

I'm not opposed to their ideaology in any way, but after reading the comments on a few posts that found their way into my feed... I had to block their communities. It didn't seem likely that I'd be reading any productive discourse there.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I was vegan for 8 years and during that time I didn't talk to anyone about it other than to say, "I don't eat that."

I say that to say this - vegans are insufferable and a large reason why I quit the community and went back to omnivore. Even after 8 years, other vegans were still 'more vegan' and would nitpick the dumbest stuff.

"Bro, did you eat a date? That killed a bee or something. Not cool."

Shut up with that. Let me eat my damn fruit.

I was healthier though. But, to be fair, I was younger.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 2 years ago

"Bro, did you eat a date? That killed a bee or something. Not cool.”

I'm a level 5 vegan. I won't eat anything that casts a shadow.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

As you might have experienced, it's pretty hard to be vegan in a carnist world. People talk about animal abuse all the time, they confront you all the time, make fun of you. Most don't want to talk about it, they want to shut you up. The hate and ignorance is strong and different people react diffrently to that situation. Some stay quiet, like yourself, some get vocal. Some debate, some get angry. Calling vegans insufferable is like calling gays insufferable, or feminists. Some might be. We have recognized a major injustice and we want to change it.

"Bro, did you eat a date? That killed a bee or something. Not cool."

That's rage bait and you made it up. Why would anyone say that?

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hey bud you really need to get off the cross. You just compared your eating preferences which are 100% a choice to someone being born homosexual and not wanting to be killed for it or being born/transitioning to a woman and wanting the same basic human rights as the other half of our species. Honestly you need to just shut up and think about that for a hot second.

[–] DarthFrodo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You just compared your eating preferences which are 100% a choice to someone being born homosexual and not wanting to be killed for it

All the animals on factory farms didn't choose to be born there and don't want to be killed either.

It's not about the sensitivities of humans, but the insane suffering of animals in this system of oppression.

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If all yall got off the crosses we could donate all the wood and nails to Habitat for Humanity.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I oppose racism, sexism, trans- and homophobia. And I oppose speciesism as well. It's the same system: One group considers another group as less valuable and exploits, abuses or fights them.
You just draw the line at you own species.
Animals are innocent, vulnerable and easy to abuse because they don't have a voice and don't understand the situation we put them in. If they were human children or mentally disabled humans, we would protect them from harm because of who they are. Instead, we do the most horrible things to them, we take their freedom, their babies, their lifes. In factories, on an industrial scale. Because a pig is just a pig, right?

EDIT: Please reply, don't just silently downvote. What's your refutation?

[–] LaVacaMariposa@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

What are you talking about? Don't you also draw a line when you choose to eat plants? I don't think they would agree to that. Untill humans develop the ability to photosynthesize, we are going to have to eat other species, there's no way around it.

[–] AccountMaker@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

Exactly my experience. I often heard stories of vegans being like that, but I never ever saw it so I thought it was just made up to belittle vegans.

Then I joined lemmy and found out that I'm apparently in favour of massacres, slavery and rape because I consume meat/milk/eggs from time to time.

I imagine the vast majority of vegans just go about their lives and resprectfully discuss the ethics of animal consumption when the topic comes up, but these loud militant members really make vegans look bad and they sure as hell make it so that even less people consider going vegan