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[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LSD and psilocybin are non-lethal and do not develop physical dependencies. Youd have to take and insane amount to die. You are advised to be watched if you are new to the drugs as they are HIGHLY mind altering. It’s not like alcohol or weed, your perception of things completely change. An experienced user is fine on a standard dose alone. But that’s not what LD-50 measures anyway, it deals with direct toxicity. Its not someone jumping through a window because they are tripping and now think they can fly.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

OK but they are highly dangerous none the less. I know (2nd hand) of someone who became dependent using it only once!!
Despite warnings not to use it unmonitored, and only once per year.

Its not someone jumping through a window because they are tripping and now think they can fly.

OK I get the point. 😋

[–] ilega_dh@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m sorry, but there are magnitudes of difference between scientific studies and secondhand anecdotes. We should base public policy on only one of these (hint: it’s not the anecdotes)

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I know (2nd hand) of someone who became dependent using it only once!!

???

You know someone who is addicted to shrooms/LSD?

I’ve only done shrooms, but it’s not really a thing where you can just “go on with your day.” I have done all of my trips solo as well - not something I would recommend to others, but it’s possible to prepare a safe environment with the kinds of things needed to distract from “bad trips.”

It’s very hard to imagine what being addicted to LSD/shrooms would look like - unless you’re microdosing, it’s a “trip” which takes a lot out of you. Iirc even medically the effects are lessened if you don’t wait long enough between doses. You don’t get euphoria, you get something a lot more complicated. It’s not really the kind of experience one gets “addicted” to in the same way - not chemically and I don’t think psychologically.

Everyone should check out Erowid and unlearn the DARE hysteria.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

unlearn the DARE hysteria.

IDK what that is.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LSD is non-habit forming for three reasons. 1) you pretty much gain an immediate and temporary tolerance. 2) the trips are so intense, abusing it everyday probably hints to you having some mental disorder instead of some dependency. They can be exhausting. 3) it’s not physically addictive, your body will not form a dependency on it, in fact it’s processed out of the brain with minutes to hours of consumption even if its effects last for much longer.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4910402/

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Thanks, the more you know. 👍