riskable

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[–] riskable@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

the doc has no clue what the third party does or doesn’t do with my data

The doc would have no clue what his local IT staff do with his data, either. Furthermore, for all you know, the doctor isn't deleting the things they record. In all of these scenarios, it's 100% out of your control. Even if it's local. Because it's not your hardware and it's not your business (as in, you don't own the doctor's office/hospital).

What you're complaining about is contract law. You obviously don't trust it. That has nothing to do with your voice being sent to servers in an Amazon data center. The 3rd party transcription service provider is under contract not to share your data and so is Amazon. Just like the doctor's office is required by law not to share your data without your consent (which I guarantee you gave them permission for when you did your paperwork at that office).

Now let me take a step back for a second and ask a more serious question: Why do you care? I mean, I can think of several reasons why someone could care about theirs and their doctor's voices being recorded but why do you, specifically care? What's the "this is a problem" scenario you're worried about?

[–] riskable@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Let me ask you a serious question: How would you limit the construction of AI data centers VS regular ones? Or even a data center inside of an existing office building? Or a data center that's just a backup location (where half of the equipment might not even be turned on all the time)?

How do you enforce such a thing? I could build a totally normal data center, then install a bunch of Nvidia HBMs and no one would know. You'd need a specific legal entity, the Data Center Police that dictate how, when, and why any given type of hardware gets used.

On the face of it, it's a huge violation of freedom of speech. Because you'd have to look into what specific software and data was being run/used on the hardware to see if it's related to AI and not, say, a CGI rendering farm. Or protein folding. Or physics/medical research. All of which use the same exact hardware.

I'm not saying you can't regulate data centers. You just can't regulate what people do with any given hardware.

My recommendation: Regulate data centers in these ways:

  • They must be powered by local renewable energy. None of this, "we bought carbon credits" bullshit.
  • If they need water cooling, they must use water from local retention ponds. Not the local potable water supply (using reclaimed water would be OK though).

Implement those two requirements and no one would have any basis to be bitching about data centers, specifically. There's much, much worse business/industrial buildings than data centers.

Aside: Data centers are just climate-controlled office buildings (with extra cooling). They just sit there. From a noise perspective, they're on par with a warehouse. In fact, warehouses that stay open 24/7 are much, much worse because of the truck traffic and forklifts. While a data center is a 24/7, low-frequency hum (on the outside, nearby), a warehouse is going to be shaking things nearby.

...and nothing is worse than busy train tracks! I slept at a friend's place for a few days that lived next to an elevated train (across the street from his window). There's no way a data center is worse than that! No way.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 0 points 2 weeks ago

Since mice are prey animals, their brain architecture and brain scaling would likely result in them seeing little visions of their predators (e.g. cats/birds) or they'd smell hundreds of miniature mice that they couldn't really see (like synesthesia).

[–] riskable@programming.dev 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Elfaloids and elfatryptamine.

Possibly also hydroxy-lilliputimol and/or lilliputinic acid.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 0 points 2 weeks ago

"Are they breaking any laws?"

"They're using our AI to figure out how it works! To make their own AI models better!"

"Yes, but are they breaking any laws?"

"No."

I get that Big AI is bitching but this isn't something we (as a country) should be actively trying to stop. To do so would infringe on everyone's rights to do things like scrape the Internet, download your own posts/history, archive stuff, etc.

It's not even fraud! They're paying customers! Do they use 3rd parties to pay? Sure. It's that illegal? No.

There's no way to stop it anyway. To believe otherwise is wishful thinking. It's like believing that passing some law or series of laws will somehow stop piracy.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This wasn't a moratorium on AI data centers. It was a moratorium on all data centers.

Do you ever use a search engine? How about YouTube, Netflix, or any other online services? I hate to be the one to break this to you but...

You're a big user of data centers.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I actually know where the voice data goes! Amazon servers... that were specifically sequestered for HIPAA stuff (LOL).

But no: It actually can't be repackaged and sold to a 3rd party. Not without your consent, anyway. That would be a violation of HIPAA.

What they can do is anonymize the data and aggregate it that way. But the HIPAA rules say that it can't be possible to tie it back to individuals. This causes problems with people who have super rare illnesses but that's a different issue altogether.

Having said that, there are companies that have be caught red handed doing exactly what you describe. They were fined and some don't exist anymore because the fines were either too much or hospitals and doctors offices stopped using them due to lack of trust.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 22 points 2 weeks ago

Not to be confused with people who identify as grammar. There/they're/their

[–] riskable@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

~~communist~~ authoritarian disaster

FTFY.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

"Who put Natural Red #4 in my pepper grinder?"

[–] riskable@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Inappropriate for sure, but impactful?

I mean, was he cheating on his wife or something? Is he known for episodes like this that weren't caught on camera?

If it's just a one-time thing... It's funny but really, who cares? I mean, this is really on-brand for a Republican to pull shit like this but there's definitely situations where I'd rather leave a public building wearing nothing but underwear rather than keep those pants on.

Example: If the toilet overflowed with sewer shit while I had them down. I'd leave the pants, socks, and shoes behind!

Especially if I was drunk off my ass!

(I don't actually drink... Just sayin 😁)

[–] riskable@programming.dev 1 points 3 weeks ago

but filming a politician when you ask them loaded opinion questions and then posting it to social media to dunk on them is not.

Why? That sounds like normal free speech. It's annoying and intrusive for sure but shouldn't be illegal.

You can't pre-empt speech like that. If you do, you're just enabling censorship and corruption.

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