Leftist Infighting

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This is sort of a "work out your frustrations by letting it all out" community where different leftist tendencies can vent their frustrations with one another and more assertively and directly challenge one another. Heated arguments are OK but pointless hostility is not (see instance rule 3).

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So I feel kinda conflicted with my believes. (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 2 years ago by comrade_zoloft@lemmygrad.ml to c/leftistinfighting@lemmygrad.ml

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I was an anarchist for a huge part of my life (most of my teenage years) and kinda began to get more connected with M-L and stuff like that, and I would call myself a marxist. Yet, everytime I talk with other leftist I either get called a tankie or an anarkiddie. If I recommend Das Kapital, I'm a state bootlicker or a left wing fascist. If I talk about how I prefer direct democracy but know that the process to communism is slow and needs some help of a state, I get called an anarkiddie. Anyway, I just find exhausting the infighting. I already struggle a lot with mental health just to be poorly treated by other people that, supposedly, want the same as all of us. Anyway you guys in lemmygrad have been always so nice, thanks btw. Have a nice week and thanks for reading my small rant.

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[–] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

I was once an anarcho-communist, a Trotskyist sympathizer, a Maoist, a generic "communist", on and on. It is a learning process, and we are all growing.

Don't let others' opinions on your beliefs shape them necessarily. Be cognizant of differing views, but I suggest trusting yourself first and foremost. Trust your own research, trust your own ideas, trust your own thinking skills, and don't let people confuse or confound you.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Direct democracy is very prominent on a local level in at least Cuba and China (at least that's my impression), and probably in the DPRK, Vietnam and Laos, too. Having no elected representatives is completely unfeasible on a national level for any country with more than a hundred thousand or so citizens (and even that's stretching it IMO -- I doubt most people would be interested in keeping track of the effects of policies and events on tens of thousands of other people, especially if that's not their full-time job), which is why AES countries use representative systems but ensure that officials can be stripped of their positions if their work is unsatisfactory. With that said, a disagreement on that front doesn't justify insults

(obviously, people who reject you for recommending Capital are just unserious and/or ignorant, likely both)

[–] olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

trust me on this comrade, the people that call you tankie or state bootlicker are not left at all. also, socialist countries do have mechanisms of direct democracy.

[–] GaryLeChat@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't take anyone who throws tankie or red fash at you seriously. I roll my eyes when I hear those terms, I'd recommend seeking out some comrades through a local org or at least hanging out on here and hexbear.

[–] givemeyourtoothbrush@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago

If the people you talk to reject Das Kapital, they are no Marxists, and not worth your time. Focus on connecting with other Marxists. Left unity is a fantasy: Marxist unity is very doable, and essential to building socialism. Those who reject materialism will have no revolutionary clout and only hinder the unity you seek.