That's sad and disgusting.
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Bullshit like this is why our industry is a mess, Nintendo may be greedy fucks but their code is good because the same dudes have been working there since the fucken 80s.
I mean, if you want to emulate a corporate ethos, I don't think Japan should be the benchmark, either...
Their crunch culture is def bad (they’re going to kill Sakurai one day), but there is quite a few things they do right. They don’t lay people off and their executives take accountability. Iwata took a significant pay cut when the Wii U flopped.
They can't lay people off, so they just put them in a room with no work to do until they get so bored that they quit. It's the same thing but different.
I’ll take my chances with the boredom room.
Exactly, I would start taking naps and watch movies. You can't bore or shame me into quitting, the second I know it's a game, I will be breaking a b**** lol
forreal I write as a hobby and I spend as much free time at work sticking it to the boss by writing lol. if they literally handed me a room with little stimuli and let me bring my notebook in I'd be living
Just making sure you realize the company would have the copyright for anything you create while on the clock....
"Fuck, well, publish it as another light novel. I'm sure they'll quit soon."
Ah your next novel is done? Make sure noone reads it, it would diminish the value of the tax-writeoff when we delete it.
You wouldn't have a notebook. Any and all stimuli would be banned as the purpose is making your experience horrible.
Also, you get incredibly mundane tasks as well. Maybe you'll get a couple sheets of random symbols and are tasked to count a certain letter. And if you don't do this task you can be laid off for underperforming.
Whatever you do, please don't throw me in the ~~briar patch~~ boredom room!
In Japan, the barrier to firing workers is much higher than in many other places. Even layoffs for financial reasons are tough and can be challenged. This is one reason companies sit on hordes of cash here is to weather financial issues, but it also has negative economic impacts as well. That said, Nintendo are a bunch of greedy cunts IMO, and I try never to buy anything new from them anymore (just buying used where they don't get a cut).
In the US the barrier to firing workers is much lower than in other countries. Even layoffs for purely arbitrary or personal reasons are easy and hard to challenge in courts. This is one of the reasons companies have little free capital and choose to lay off many workers as soon as the market looks to be turning. But it also has positive economic impacts as well. That said, EA are a bunch of greedy cunts, and I try never to buy anything new from them anymore (just buying used where they don't get a cut, if they released any games worth owning).
I think a lot of what comes out of Japan is better than the West because they haven't given up their idea of the company man.
Like it or not, having to switch jobs every few years is going to impact your performance.
Most of you have no idea how much easier it is to process information when you accept that you'll be doing it the same way for decades.
at least the west is starting to acknowledge the torturous monotony of doing the same job for decades.
Lots of people prefer the comfort of familiarity.
Apex has a story?
It's a spinoff from titanfall, a series with a lot of cool world building, it would be a bit weird to have no story at all.
It's also a live service so they need to ~~copy fortnite~~ have an in game explanation for the updates
No, they have "lore": a bunch of inconclusive and loosely connected animation shorts, vague plot points, and character bios that give just enough of a reason for their seasonal events to occur and for fans to drool over. Just like every other live service.
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I hope these CEO's get their reckoning some way some day.
They seem to think it's all just business and cruelly wielding power is no issue, but I think they overestimate how isolated they are.
They won't get any kind of reckoning that we'll understand. They're rich, powerful, and insulated from pain. They've all got golden parachutes via their weaselly networks. There will be no karma, unfortunately.
I don't think they will receive a reckoning, but their children might.
It's especially disgusting when we realize rich people are setting their children up to inherit a world where everyone hates them for being rich from exploitation.
If we want them to receive a reckoning, it's on us, the working class, to force it to happen.
TIL Apex had writing behind it
It's set in the Titanfall universe, there's lots of lore scattered around. People work hard to integrate a narrative into the level and character designs, to imply plot in incidental dialogue or cinematics, or just literally write text entries that the majority of gamers will never read because only shooting and rare skins trigger their dopamine.
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TL,DR: Company fires hundreds of workers. CEO makes $25.6 million.
This is why we need to have 90 dollar games! /s
Apex is literally free to play
My question is when workers in game studios start to make unions. It's a massive industry and the people actually making the games are constantly fucked over.
Many years ago. But as you said, it's a big industry, and the US is not an easy place to unionize in.
and the US is not an easy place to unionize in.
Moreso now than ever before.
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Yes, but there are also European developers. Such as Ubisoft, which previously had major issues with harassment, and probably still does. If they have a union, it certainly isn't a powerful one.
in my head its because its an industry where going solo is viable and if they arent working at a company thats their goal so they have full contol over the vision and make all the money and one day they want to exert the same creative control over others and get overtime/overwork out of them
The irony is that becoming a solo dev is rarely feasible and even more rarely leads to a product that pays up more than just working elsewhere.
That immediately makes people point to success stories, like Stardew Valley. Dunno about others, but I don't have a family + girlfriend to sustain me for 4+ years, nor am I blinded by the dream possibility of reaching millions of sales when so many games struggle to reach 10k sales.
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And then they feed the documents to a LLM and iterate over it
Had over a thousand hours in Apex, while I quit way back because of different reasons, their actions definitely are not going to bring me back
I was gonna get snooty about being an indie game buyer, then I remembered that I bought a Larian game developed in partnership with Hasbro, so my snootiness will have to wait for another day.
Hasbro is a requirement for the D&D license, no?
Larian at least went against the grain of the AAAAA Industry and delivered something truly wonderful.
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