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[–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

Moderator disclaimer I consider myself anarcho-communist and I ended up banning the user because his decorum was unacceptable by community standards, and he resorted mostly to personal and instance attacks. I also removed comments on the other side that contributed nothing to the conversation and were also personal attacks. Don't make me work more than I want to people.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

buy it? no. encourage others to bid to drive up the price for my amusement? sure

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 0 points 8 months ago

the ziqleeeeer

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

It's the ziqler lol look at this account's first comment.

Funny how they got in a fight with Masquenox who is another character I found very interesting to interact with.

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Tbh I only know of them through hexbear, that they run some lemmy alternative and don't care enough to investigate further shrug-outta-hecks

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago

is that you, starmer?

[–] iThinkImDumb@hexbear.net 0 points 8 months ago

Funny how they got in a fight with Masquenox

let-them-fight

tito-laugh

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago

yeah apparently anarchists aren't welcome on lemmy, who would have thunk it

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 8 months ago

not beating the anarkiddie allegations

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

so lovely how c/anarchism is filled with tankies who troll you for sharing anarchist lit

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy.ml is mostly Marxists, so it's fairly understandable that you're getting some pushback for sharing an explicitly anti-communist piece. I presume you'd get less pushback if it was just a pro-anarchist piece, but it's like you were deliberately trying to spark a fight.

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

good to know. maybe don't host an anarchist forum so people don't pick it from the drop down menu on other instances and then get met with hostile american dengists

it's not anti communist in the slightest btw unless you're taking the word 'authoritarian' as a smear against you for some reason. it doesn't even mention communism

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The anarchism comm on Lemmy.ml is for anarchists, yes, but that doesn't mean your content is going to be hidden from Marxists. Again, deliberately attacking Marxists on an instance with a lot of them would get a similar reaction to a Marxist posting an anti-anarchist meme on dbzer0, as an example, even if it was a Marxist community.

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It's very clearly not for anarchists if anarchists can't use it to talk about anarchism without being dogpiled by salty dengists who get offended by the idea of anarchists opposing authority i.e. the definition of anarchy

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's for anarchists, but again, more Marxists browse Lemmy.ml than anarchists do, so when you post an anti-Marxist post, even if it's on an anarchist community, you're going to get more attention from Marxists. Communities on instances are more like hashtags than actual communities, in my experience. Also, no idea why you're bringing up Deng, this post attacks Marxism in general.

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

it's not for anarchists. source: i'm an anarchist. there are no anarchists here. and again, it's not anti-marxist just because it mentions not letting "authoritarians" tell you to grow up a couple of times and mentions that Marxists are "opponents" to anarchists. that's you projecting. I'm bringing up Dengists because I know Dengists when I see them.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's tragically ironic that anarchists are so often scolded by condescending authoritarians for being "infantile," especially when we consider the historical context: no authoritarian regime has ever fostered the conditions necessary for genuine liberation. Are we really expected to believe that future authoritarian systems, following the same tired script, will succeed when every single one has historically exhibited a pattern of dismal failure and a litany of atrocities? Such a belief seems far more naive than the idealistic principles championed by anarchists.

The centralization of power in a single authority not only undermines individual autonomy but also infantilizes the very individuals it purports to protect. By relegating people to a subordinate status as dependents of the state, these systems strip them of agency and responsibility, suggesting that ordinary workers are incapable of making their own decisions. This dynamic adds another layer of irony to the common critique of anarchism, as it is the authoritarian structures that foster dependency, fear of change, and social and political immaturity. In stark contrast, the anarchist vision promotes a world grounded in self-sufficiency through mutual aid, freedom of association, and voluntary cooperation.

This section is pretty nakedly anti-Marxist, and again, I don't see why Deng is relevant here when this is against all branches of Marxism.

[–] Dirt_Possum@hexbear.net 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't see why Deng is relevant here when this is against all branches of Marxism

They're calling us Dengists because most of us support China (even after Deng's post-Mao market reforms) as a socialist project, but since modern China is one of the Great Evil Authoritarian states by their reckoning, the term is meant as a pejorative. It's basically "tankie" but with anti-Chinese characteristics.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure you're right, just wanted to tease the fact that they are just being anti-communist in general out. Hiding behind being "anti-Dengist" is a pejorative of convenience for them, but all of their issues apply to Marxism broadly.

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Obviously as an anarchist I'm not a Marxist, no anarchists are. Plenty of us opt for anarchy, mutualism, communalism, municipalism, etc. We're socialists who disagree with Marx's program. Deng on the other hand is just a run of the mill capitalist making his followers enemies of the working class.

The fact that you're centering Marxism on c/anarchism is a bad look for this project. Not everything has to revolve around your fave bearded white guy. If we can't talk about anarchism here without needing to soothe Marxists' egos (Dengists if we're being honest), why maintain an anarchist forum?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say Marxists were anarchists or anarchists were Marxists. I stated that your issues with "Dengists" are just issues you have with Marxists coated in a less left-punchy way. Deng himself was a Marxist-Leninist working with the struggles brought about from the Gang of Four and the Cultural Revolution, socialism is still the mode of production in the PRC.

As for "centering Marxism," I was addressing your complaints of being dogpiled on by Marxists on an instance dominated by Marxists. There are many anarchist users on Lemmy.ml, and they share their views as well without resorting to thinly-veiled attacks on Marxists.

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Apparently these anarchists are in hiding because all I see is Dengists in every direction.

If there are really anarchists reading this, perhaps scared to speak up because you don't want to cross the Dengists who clearly control the discourse here:

I didn't write this essay for spiteful Marxists; rather, it's a heartfelt tribute to young anarchists, urging you to persist in your pursuit of anarchy and resist the pressure from these patronising bores to conform to their conservative values. I see so many of you expressing frustration over Marxists mocking your positions. This essay serves as a form of prefiguration, encouraging newer anarchists to envision a more creative and liberating path than the all-too-common ancom to authcom pipeline.

We all need to stop centering the egos of Marxists in everything we do.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We all need to stop centering the egos of Marxists in everything we do.

buddy you have a triple digit number of sockpuppet accounts, I think the gravitational pull of that ego is clearly much more relevant

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

if i were using multiple accounts the discourse in this place wouldn't be so fucking insipid.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you should lay out a 5 year plan for sockpuppet production and distribution across the anarchist comms on lemmy, get input on it from 4 other alts, then run a great purge where you ban 2 of them.

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

that would require me to give a shit about influencing lemmy

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 0 points 8 months ago

Anarchism Within One Person

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You've been attacking "Dengists" for standard Marxist positions. Further, again, nothing here is about "centering egos," I'm explaining why your thinly-veiled hit piece on Marxists is getting a response from Marxists you've attacked.

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

We all need to stop centering the egos of Marxists in everything we do.

Let us pathetic illiterate anarkiddies get on with doing cool shit now, k?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Who is centering the egos of Marxists?

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

the marxist forcing me to talk about marxism in c/anarchism for hours because he's offended by the most milquetoast essay i've ever written because it suggests young anarchists shouldn't let authoritarians shame them for being anti-authoritarian....

the irony!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

I responded to your comment. Am I to assume you're just a troll, then, that just wanted a reaction? I'm not really offended either, nor am I "centering Marxist egos." You made the comment, I answered.

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Again, you're projecting. That you see the word "authoritarian regime" and immediately feel victimized says a lot more about you than me. It's talking about all authoritarian regimes from Nazi Germany to Fascist USA to Terf Island and beyond. Anarchists saying authoritarian states haven't liberated people historically is not a personal attack on you.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's pretty clearly hinting at those who would use the state to uplift the working class, making way for the gradual withering of the state alongside class, ie Marxists. It also directly talks about centralization, ie collectivizing production in the hands of all of society, a distinctly Marxist viewpoint.

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Central governments aren't the exclusive domain of Marxists. There's zero mention of using the state to uplift anyone. Holy moley the projection.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The bit about centralizing all power in a single authority is pretty much the standard punch against Marxists. Having a central government is different from centralizing all of production. Secondly, there's this part:

The centralization of power in a single authority not only undermines individual autonomy but also infantilizes the very individuals it purports to protect. By relegating people to a subordinate status as dependents of the state, these systems strip them of agency and responsibility, suggesting that ordinary workers are incapable of making their own decisions

What is this supposed to be attacking other than the notion that a proletarian state can be used to uplift the proletariat?

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

What is this supposed to be attacking

creepy authoritarian scumfucks who spend their lives fellating boots and cry victim when you suggest that maybe boots don't taste that good..?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why are you trying to dance around?

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

i'm telling you exactly what you want to hear to end this tedious exchange. too bad the mod decided me talking about the unappealing flavor of boots is somehow 'bigotry'. this place is worse than reddit.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You were free to stop responding whenever you felt like.

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you use the word 'free' loosely for someone using a site where bootlicker is considered an unacceptable slur

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

Are the "authoritarian" mods requiring you to reply to me?

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 0 points 8 months ago

i'm an anarchist

you're ziq lol farquaad-point

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Good god would you stop whinging

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to pick a random marxist tendency out of a hat to sound quirky bazinga

[–] ChanceHappening@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

if by random you mean the tendency followed by lemmy's developers, the entire lemmygrad base and hexbear, yes

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

By random I mean you had a sneering revelation in the shower where you decided 'yeah! they're all like that!' probably because none of the people listed are calling for the overthrow of China, so you switched from using 'Stalinist'

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