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๐ ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ท๐ด ๐ฌ๐ช๐น๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ช๐ต ๐ ๐ฒ๐ผ ๐น๐ป๐ธ๐ซ๐ช๐ซ๐ต๐ ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ฎ ๐ถ๐ธ๐ผ๐ฝ ๐ฏ๐พ๐ท ๐ฝ๐ธ ๐๐ป๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ฎ, ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ธ๐พ๐ฐ๐ฑ ๐ต๐ธ๐๐ฎ๐ป๐ฌ๐ช๐ผ๐ฎ ๐บ ๐ฒ๐ผ ๐ช๐ต๐ผ๐ธ ๐ช ๐ผ๐ฝ๐ป๐ธ๐ท๐ฐ ๐ฌ๐ธ๐ท๐ฝ๐ฎ๐ท๐ญ๐ฎ๐ป.
I ended up kind of creating my own cursive "font" because I thought several of the choices for letter shapes were, in graphological parlance, "Just completely fucking retarded." Like the lowercase S being a slightly pointy loop. I devised my own capital T as well, and jettisoned that Q that looks like a 2.
I wrote in completely illegible cursive until about halfway through college when I started using a laptop for all assignments. On a decent keyboard I can peak at 104 wpm. On the very rare occasion I do have to pick up a pen and write with it anymore, I'm usually jotting down measurements or something, or slopping out some squiggles that will just have to suffice as my signature.
I don't see teaching cursive to children as a particularly valuable usage of time, at this point it might be worth teaching them to read it, but proficiency in writing it is not valuable.
Hard disagree. I am an ecologist and paper notes are very common just for reasons of practicality, taking notes on a tablet or field computer can be really difficult with glare, managing power, overheating, rain. The faster and more legibley you can write, the better you'll be on the job. I doubt that ecology is the only field where this is true. Not everyone has a dang office job.
handwriting proficiency should be taught. cursive can fuck off.
But cursive is more useful and practical than writing print. If you're taking notes, you want to take them quickly and still be legible. Cursive is a system for this.
My cursive looks like a 10yr old wrote it, which is about the last time I actually wrote in cursive
I hate that they still teach it in schools. It means that for about 3-4 years per child, you get birthday and Christmas cards and you can't read them.
It's not noticeably faster and it's certainly not neater. Just let it die.
Also writing speed doesn't really matter anymore. Most situations where writing speed used to matter now needs typing speed instead.
I don't buy this. I take notes on paper all the time, what am I going to have my laptop or phone in my face during every conversation?
What are you doing that having a pen and paper is normal but your phone or laptop isn't?
I work in habitat restoration. I spend a lot of time outdoors, but most of my notes are just from my normal meetings. If I'm on my phone taking notes, I have to stare down at my phone and it takes me out of the meeting. I have ADHD and find my phone very distracting. But I can write quick notes on paper without having my head down.
I also just prefer physical notes. I have tried everything under the sun with digital note-taking, but nothing beats the flexibility and reliability of pen and paper. I have a great binder-based note-organization system.
I am honestly shocked that so many people NEVER use pen and paper notes? It is very normal in my field.
Congratulations on finding a single exemption to the rule.
The rest of us are living in 2024
Not really, a lot of people work outdoors in some way. It's not as unusual as you think, you are just in your own bubble lol
Your tone is condescending as fuck, so I don't know why I'm bothering to reply because you'll undoubtedly just shoot insults at me too, but... I live in 2024. I work in tech, too. I almost exclusively use paper as a note taking, problem solving, and brainstorming tool. Digital tools simply don't compare in my eye. There is an inherent freedom of immediate expression and a special mental retention value that comes with pen on paper that I have tried and failed to sufficiently replicate on a computer despite attempts of great effort. I'd definitely prefer if I could instantly backup and organize and search and sync without a scan+tag process, but it's all inferior to me. The most capable people I work with also have a shockingly common tendency (>65%) to share this preference, too. I envy the others' ability to work purely digitally, but do notice how they spend substantially more time and effort in "administrative overhead" with their digital knowledgebases in comparison to my analog squishy world, to just end up producing similar overall output.
I have a colleague that insists on using pen and paper. He has draws and draws full of random scraps of paper which apparently have important things on them.
He's even gone out and got expensive paper which is apparently made from stones? and is there for waterproof, It does appear to be waterproof but I'm not convinced it's made out of stone. He has a phone and a Laptop, and an iPad Pro with a stylus, and he refuses to use any of them.
You don't really seem to like him very much haha
Yeah because he can never find anything. He knows he wrote it down, but he doesn't know where it is or what it said, and because it's not on a computer you can't just search for it. He's a pain.
Even if he just scanned in the results of his spider scroll at least we'd have something. Although it still wouldn't be searchable because it would just be a picture but I bet OCR could probably do something about that.
You can totally be disorganized on a computer too. My paper notes are organized in a binder by context.
Idk sounds like the guy just has untreated ADHD or something. Life's too short to be mad at someone for being kinda bad at their job. You're all just workers together.
He can be as disorganized as he wants up until it makes my life more difficult. Then I'll be mad at him.
Don't gatekeeper being mad at annoying people.
lmao gatekeeping? calm down ๐
You actually seem to be the one with the personality problem here.
People are telling you their stories, and you're like "no your stories are wrong you're a shit person." What the hell is wrong with you?
you're projecting a lot here? but go off