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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And DS9 is the conservative one with all the religion and the baseball and the war crimes and stuff.

TNG was run by a Frenchman who thought allowing bronze age species to believe in God was a barbaric act and went to bat as a human rights lawyer for an android who in turn let his first child pick their gender at will. All that while his polyamorous first officer was busy arguing against conversion therapy when pushed upon his trans nonbinary partner.

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Uh... He wasn't against allowing anyone to believe in a god of gods. He only took issue with people worshipping "The Picard" and Ardra scamming.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He gave a speech about how they had moved past religion and he wasn't going to allow them to go back to superstition

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 2 years ago

I looked it up.

Horrifying. Dr. Barron, your report describes how rational these people are. Millennia ago, they abandoned their belief in the supernatural. Now you are asking me to sabotage that achievement, to send them back into the dark ages of superstition and ignorance and fear? NO!

Man was such an atheist I'm mildly surprised he isn't more of a terminally online conservative. He's too pro-choice, though, so I think we're safe.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He knew Ardra was a phony, but still passed up the opportunity.

That takes some restraint and willpower, as opposed to Will-power, cause we all know Riker would.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It doesn't take any willpower when you're this man-

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

While I don't doubt he (or Picard) could have bagged Cindy Crawford, you can tell they weren't in the same room based on lighting and shadows.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Let's be real. Picard probably worships the koala.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 2 years ago

Nah. There is a whole omnipotent being with a massive crush on him and Picard treats him like a nuisance he deals with at regular intervals. First thing he did when Q got briefly depowered was put him in the brig.

Picard knows the Koala is real but he has zero respect for cosmic marsupials in general.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dear Paramount: Doctor Twink and his boyfriend Fashion Lizard is a spinoff I would 100% watch every week.

Thank you.

It’s ok - he’s just a plain… simple… tailor.

The hypothetical discussions will be, without irony, absolutely riveting.

[–] bastion@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wokeness is not the issue with disco, et al. It's terrible writing, poor science even for soft sci fi, and too many cringey moments.

I get that some people love it. But the emotional resolution porn is, to me, just icky.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Not gonna lie, as a straight white man, I would watch a show called " Doctor Twink with his boyfriend fashion Lizard".

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

... Star Trek is and has always been woke. It's like the core feature of Star Trek

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

ToS had the first interracial kiss shown on television. And then there was this entire episode.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The first interracial kiss on TV was between Kirk and Uhura in 1968. Star Trek is and always has been set in a time when humans have achieved a post-scarcity leftist utopian. Shit's been this way since way before your uncle started calling everything he doesn't like "woke" which was only like 4 years ago for the record.

Know what was really woke? Keeping watch for police brutality and unjust police tactics. For real. I'm quoting this article lol.

[–] bblkargonaut@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The problem isnt woke, the problem is CW level writing. I've watched every episode of star Trek up to season 2 of Picard and the writers of discovery not understanding the speed of light, and it feel like the writers are just in qualified for their positions. It's so bad.

The writing for all the previous shows all had their highs and lows, but characters acted within their characterization and had genuine motivations. Picard season 1 was a rip off of mass effect and old man's war, with the facade Picard shoe horned in. Season 2 you have him chummy with a cold blooded murderer who faced no consequences.

I liked discovery for the first few seasons, but the plot holes, inconsistencies, and poor characterizations, left me feeling like watching the show was more habit or chore. I also never really felt like I got to know characters because their actions are so off the wall that you don't figure out the algorithms of their personality and motivations.

I honestly feel like lower decks has been the best Star Trek made in this new era, but I haven't seen brave new worlds yet or Picard season 3. I just needed a break after Picard season 2.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They were too cowardly to make Doctor Twink and his boyfriend a thing, so they don't get credit for that. Fashion Lizard works, though.

[–] tan00k@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are we head canoning Kira as bi now or is she including mirror universe Kira in this? Or maybe I missed something in several watches.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Mirror Kira is only bold enough to do what regular Kira couldn't. We all know she thought about it.

[–] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Let’s not forget:

  • The Kiss
  • white/black Riddler duking it out with black/white guy in an allegory to race relations
  • Abraham Lincoln calling Uhura a “a charming negress” followed by a brief discussion about the future’s take on linguistics and equality
  • the pilot episode had a woman named Number One who was so named because she was number one at everything she did. She excelled at all the things on the ship. A woman being better than men? Impossible. That’s woke.
  • the Enterprise and a bunch of klingons once showed up to a planet so woke they ended war and used space magic to make the humans and klingons also do no wars in their vicinity.
  • in another episode the Enterprise went to a planet that still had war but they calculated the results of battles using a video game console and then sent casualties to their death in a disintegration chamber and the Kirk blew up the video game console to force them to either negotiate or go back to actual war as a lesson in ignoring the Prime Directive directly.
  • there was a Nazi planet and the Nazis were the bad guys.
  • there was also a Yankee planet where they somehow independently wrote the Declaration of Independence in broken pidgin English and used it to defeat the Space Soviets.
  • the episode where Kirk and a woman exchange bodies was… not handled well and is not a good example.
  • the klingons were soviets, btw.
  • basically every episode of the original series had something “woke”, okay? It was literally the whole point of the series.
[–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Colm Meaney was associated with Sinn Fein (formerly the political arm of the IRA) for a long time, so "Pro-Union Irishman" took me a minute.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait, who is the trans worm supposed to be?

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I forgot the symbiote was a worm thing. They really only showed that in one episode if I remember correctly, and that was already a retcon from what they did in TNG originally. I was also confused by the trans part because the symbiote doesn't really have a gender identity, the host does.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Her swapping genders is.....SOMETHING.

Lets just call it trans and go get a drink.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I find it telling that all they had to do in order to make being trans "acceptable" on TV was to make them be an alien species with an even more alien critter living inside them. And it worked, nobody ever questioned it even a little bit.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And the bisexual terrorist?

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That would be Kira. Although I don't think she was really bisexual either. The mirror universe Kira had like a narcissistic crush on non-mirror universe Kira if I remember correctly.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Oh, right, Mirror Kira definitely was, true. But our Kira was pretty focused on the one organ. I guess unless Odo counts as another gender.

[–] Ibuthyr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Odo is quite literally gender-fluid.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

In a wordplay way, sure, but he consistently presents male. In contrast to the character who is literally referred to as “the female changeling”.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is Eddington communist himbo? Rom?

[–] sqw@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Communist? More like priest himbo I would think.

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Rom quotes Karl Marx, forms a union, and organizes a workers strike in “Bar Association.” I’m assuming that’s mostly where this comes from, though there were also some reforms he instituted near the end of the series.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Traumatized Goo

I see they put O'Brien on this list, but then which one is Odo?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Fades@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

✨ even better! He was a union man ✨

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I assume they’re calling Worf the”communist himbo?” I don’t get the communist part though.

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I thought it was Morn. That guy just would not stop talking about communism.