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    [–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Librewolf, but I'd argue it's more of a Firefox/web debloater reason. No pocket, no VPN ads. I would have said that the only issue is that it is a pain to update, but they added a windows updater and software repos, so I would almost recommend it over stock firefox for normies.

    And I use tor to search stuff that contains sensitive data like my location... Or when a website is blocked

    [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

    This is the argument I keep using for why people should use Linux more. The fact you have to run updater software for each piece of software is so stupid. It's a horrible solution to a poorly designed problem. On Linux I just tell my package manager to update everything and it takes care of it all. There's no need for the user to be handling all of that, and it also shouldn't have to update in starting the application because that's when the user wants to use it, not wait for an update.

    (For reference: it's the same thing as on your phone where it tells you the number of things that need updated and you just tell it to update whenever you feel like it.)

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Librewolf is just a usable Firefox

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Firefox is a completely usable Firefox.

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    If you dont care about Ad search engines, Studies, Pocket, Google Safebrowsing, search suggestions, a start page with ads, weak privacy settings, all cookies saved forever, no adblocking, a unique canvas fingerprint, a user agent containing your Linux Distro,...

    I went through the arkenfox user.js and literally all of it minus 20 or so settings just make sense. The rest are kinda overkill, but really, Firefox is horrible out of the box.

    It is really modular luckily

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    really, Firefox is horrible out of the box.

    It is really modular luckily

    Talking shit, but even you still have to recognize excellent software design.

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

    Stop harrassing me please. Just because you are fine with something, you cant say anyone else is talking shit.

    Firefox is really modular, and that makes it different from the other browers.

    [–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

    Librewolf enables fingerprinting preventation which makes some websites / fields very laggy. I can disable it but what's the point of using Librewolf then? Also using FF is not paranoid, it is the only free software I installed that sticked with my family. Tor has a wholly different purpose.

    [–] savvywolf@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    NetCat. /s

    Seriously though, I just use Firefox. LibreWolf is basically Firefox with stricter defaults, and over the years I've already tweaked Firefox to use all the privacy features anyway.

    I know there's some extra sauce implemented in LibreWolf that Firefox lacks, but that stuff seems like too much of a compromise for me (like canvas fingerprinting).

    Plus, I think orange looks nicer in my window list than blue.

    I also don't use tor or a vpn unless I can't access anything otherwise. I guess I don't really see the need to, since I don't think I'm doing anything that'll draw the government's attention.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

    Firefox may silently opt you into "features" such as targeted advertising. Librewolf acts as a barrier.

    Also "nothing to hide" is fine if you have nothing to say and you don't care about liberty.

    [–] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

    I started moving from Firefox to LibreWolf and found a few too many convenient features broke.

    I think password and bookmark syncing was too difficult to move away from, as I use them across devices/phone.

    Haven't had time to research alternative methods or practices.

    [–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

    You can turn off canvas fingerprinting or any added feature with a single checkbox. I used to feel the same way about LibreWolf, but once I familiarized myself with the different settings, it became clearly the superior option if you value privacy. I also set my Firefox settings strictly, but then they added new β€œfeatures” and turned them on by default. That was the last straw for me.

    [–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

    Tor Browser is this kid wearing many layers of different masks and hoodies, and changing them randomly whenever the mood strikes.

    [–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 years ago

    Regular firefox and tweaked

    Librewolf for normal stuff, Tor for stuff I don't even want linked to my IP.

    [–] serpineslair@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I have modified Firefox. Might as well be Librewolf.

    [–] communism@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

    I was the same which was why I just switched to librewolf. Cut the work out for me.

    [–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

    Vacuum-gapped video relay in the wilderness.

    [–] LinusSexTips@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    schizofox "Hardened Firefox flake for the delusional and the schizophrenics."

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

    Arkenfox if anything

    [–] banazir@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

    [Richard Stallman] usually does not browse the web directly from his personal computer. Instead, he uses GNU Womb's grab-url-from-mail utility, an email-based proxy which downloads the webpage content and then emails it to the user.

    If you're not doing this you're not properly paranoid.

    [–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I use Librewolf and TBB. Both have NoScript enabled and JS turned off by default. I never turn on JS on TBB obviously, and for the few sites that I frequent on Librewolf, I tweaked it by hand. It's not that hard.

    I will look to also use Mullvad browser alongside Librewolf maybe, not sure which one of them is more private since Mullvad browser comes straight from the TOR project and has their security settings.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

    Librewolf also has Tor security settings

    [–] thegreenguy@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm considering switching to LibreWolf after all the AI crap Mozilla is adding

    [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

    Statistical analysis of a large data set is a sin, after all.

    [–] magi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

    Librewolf is great. I just add exceptions for a handful of sites I want to retain sessions for and it is very usable as a daily driver

    [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    does using chrome make you naked or something?

    unless it's just equivalent to firefox, which i doubt.

    [–] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Internet explorer makes you naked for sure.

    Chrome maybe in swim trunks at a shopping mall. Everyone (advertisers etc) can see you and you're weirdly exposed.

    this one makes sense, i like this one.

    And dont forget the the sunglasses either. Every chrome users wears a pair of sunglasses inside for sure.

    [–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Librewolf. I yearn for something better for ios. I'm sticking woth firefox because all my tabs & shit are synced.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

    There isn't going to be something better because of the locked down proprietary ecosystem. You might as well use Safari

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Librewolf is better than Tor in some ways. Tor has ads

    Gotta weigh in the benefits of privacy/features vs anonymity for your needs.

    [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Clearly 🐺. Been on it like, 3y+? Maybe longer, it's been my primary for a long time. 🦊 as a backup, and for DRM stuff. Chrome/Chromium for shit that just doesn't play well with 🦎. Edge (for windows) is my 'I need to test this with a vanilla browser' and cba to disable ublock etc from chrome incognito.

    Iceraven, with backup Vanadium, on mobile.

    For mobile, I'd recommend Mull instead of Iceraven

    Pros:

    • Just like Iceraven, a fork of Fenix
    • incorporates the arkenfox user.js
    • Doesn't have "No warranties or guarantees of security or updates or even stability!" in its project description

    Cons:

    • APKs are only on FDroid
    • awful name, no animal reference
    • awful logo color scheme imo - magenta on turquoise is... an interesting choice

    Here's a probably somewhat biased but from quickly skimming over it not inaccurate browser comparison by the developer(s) of Mull:

    https://divestos.org/pages/browsers

    Also based GrapheneOS user

    [–] 1boiledpotato@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I'm not paranoid. I'm Brave

    [–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    Hahahahahahaha.

    From the maker of Palantir (facial recognition software used by nearly every police force in north america).

    Funder of JD Vance,

    and a good friend of putin.

    Peter Thiel.

    [–] 1boiledpotato@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

    I don't care who created it. I like the product, and I'll be using it even if it was created by literal Hitler