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This isn't a failure with the law not being allowed to overstep and forcibly remove medical freedoms from its citizens. This is a failure of the state's (potentially country's) adult education system, that allows the adults to become so uneducated on the subject, that their ignorance has harmed and killed children. This is a failure on the society that built such a system, and allowed it to continue into modern times. This is not a failure of lacking government overreach, but a failure in society as a whole.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 127 points 1 week ago (15 children)

It would lose an election for any politician saying it, but sometimes the child's rights supersede a parents right to do whatever they want with their kids.

You shouldn't be able to do things like refuse to feed your child, refuse to give your child medical care, or refuse to educate your child.

[–] KC_Royalz@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (6 children)

No. a presidential candidate should absolutely run on that. Child abuse charges for the parents for failure to seek medical help

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

They'd lose if it were a local position within Idaho. Those same people who didn't wear masks, refuse to vaccinate, refuses care for their child? All those same people are the same people VOTING.

It would be different if it weren't an election in the most brain dead state.

Yeah, it's impressive to find a new low BELOW Florida. At least Florida knows how to pull in tourists. Who the fuck wants to willingly go to Idaho???

[–] KC_Royalz@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You don't run on it you just enforce at a federal level. Republicans love state rights until they're in power then they love telling states what they can and can't do.

Democrats need to force this down their fng throat

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[–] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 22 points 1 week ago

I've never agreed with the idea that a child is the property of the parent. The kid has rights, and those should supersede a religious parent who thinks they can replace medicine with prayer.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Children have no rights :(

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[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The nuclear family model, the parents have absolute rights over the child, is as nonsensical as it sounds.

It takes a village and the village should be able to intervene when parents put their child at risk.

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[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Remember that Idaho is filled with people who think Utah is too liberal.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

I mean shit, logically I knew that but seeing it written out like that is... it's just fucking something.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I had a roommate from Idaho in college. He thought Bill O'Reilly was too liberal. I stopped sleeping when he was around.

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[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

The babies that died are horrific, but what really got me was:

Maicy was 16 years old but the size of a third grader: 62 pounds and just shy of 4 feet tall. She had suffered from a constellation of ailments: stomach irritation, severe anemia, erratic menstrual periods, a blocked artery, thickened aorta and thinning hair. An autopsy after she died on New Year’s Day 2019 traced it all back to a benign, treatable pituitary tumor.

She was 16. She should have been chasing boys and living life and enjoying herself and doing all the stuff teenagers do. Instead she watched her peers do this, while her stilted ruined body slowly killed her from the inside. For years she watched herself become something utterly wrong and transformed. That poor fucking girl. A benign, easily treatable pituitary tumor. One easy surgery, and she would have lived a long, healthy life. Instead her parents watched her die and did nothing for years.

They should be in fucking jail.

I wonder if they would go to the hospital for bullet wounds? Has someone tested this theory?

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[–] lonefighter@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That poor child. What a long, painful death just because their parents couldn't be bothered to not be pieces of shits. You can choose whatever you want for yourself, but when you have another life dependent on you then you have to do whatever is necessary to limit their suffering.

When I was a child my mother told me that I had no rights as a human being except the ones she decided I should have until I was a legal adult and could move out of her house.

I haven't spoken to her in years.

[–] CaptSatelliteJack@lemy.lol 11 points 1 week ago

As is your right.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well they only care about them until they are born.

[–] db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago

They only pretend to care until they're born.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I like to remind people that Idaho is a shit hole state.

Lots of white supremacy.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Southern Idaho is full of Mormons. Northern Idaho is full brain damaged people from the extreme amount pollution that the mines caused.

https://www.gonzaga.edu/news-events/stories/the-bunker-hill-mine-fire-lead-poisoning

Idaho and Utah historically had some of the largest and most active KKK memberships. Mormonism is racist by published doctrine (even though recent leadership has attempted to disavow it).

Southern Idaho:

https://www.intermountainhistories.org/items/show/813

Northern Idaho gets a bit more extreme.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_Nations

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[–] Melobol@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How the hell is this not neglect?

[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is. It’s just legal there.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A gentle reminder that legal does not mean moral.

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[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 week ago

Smashing infants on rocks, with more steps. Someone should nab them for "post-birth abortions." "Every life is sacred," allegedly.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

At first, I was like 'Fuck Idaho, the cesspool!", but then I did some thinking on the issue. This is probably a symptom of a greater disease: the lack of universal health-insurance. I mean, Idaho has a long history of deregulation, which makes their food and environment a poison; stagnant wages because its Idaho, a long-time Republican mecha; an unaffordable healthcare system, something that plagues this "developed" country; and an insurance system that must prevent covering care because its owned by rich people in a for-profit market. Think on it, we live in a society where someone accused of murder is a hero:

Combine all that and "being tiny" isn't a big enough concern to risk medical bankruptcy.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Another question asked this morning has me thinking about how my parents treated me as a child. I was sick one time and my parents waited until my ear drums burst before taking me to the doctor. Really it was because someone had came by that morning and saw blood coming out of my ears. I don't think they would have ever taken me to the doctor otherwise.

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[–] Carighan@piefed.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is so wild to me. Like this is very much - intentionally causing bodily harm to the kid - a reason you should have your kids taken away from you.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Idaho is filled with fucking nut job people.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The sad thing is that as I understand it Idaho used to be that old school mind your own business libertarians, wherein they were kinda assholes but they had lines and standards. Sometime in the 70s/80s/90s when the whackjobs started getting pressure put on them in the other western states namely California all the fucked up weirdos more or less overran Idaho which caused it to go from culturally similar to rural San Bernardino in morst areas to what it is now. If you want to see a solid microcosm of this with one town look up how one fucked up christofascist mega church has been trying to seize control of Moscow Idaho.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean Ammon Bundy lives in Idaho. That's all you need to know.

Ammon Bundy

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And yet, “pro life”.

F**king hypocrites.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Pro lifers don't give a shit about the post-born. Hypocrisy in name, but their wretchedness is absolutely consistent and comes from the rot in their cores. At least give them credit for being so predictably, reliably awful, and plainly advertising who the enemy is. It's on the rest of us to know and see them for who they are, and do the right things when when they try to do the wrong ones.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 17 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's like watching evolution happen in real time.

[–] KC_Royalz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

have to be grateful that child was spared living a life with moronic parents but at the same time feel bad that the kids life was cut short by moronic parents

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Was this because they hated medicine or just couldn’t afford it?

Not saying either is acceptable, but the latter is slightly more understandable.

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[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Religion

It's always a problem, but combining religious stupid with 'Murican stupid is several orders of magnitude more stupid than can be understood by anyone who has an IQ over potato

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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Idaho may actually be the Nazi capital of the country. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

The horrors of parental hyperindividualism where personal pride and blind fundie faith exceeds reason.

[–] FuyuhikoDate@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In 2026 this sounds like an tip for people who can't afford / where abortions are illegal

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

They cross over into Washington State for healthcare they actually want.

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[–] Widukin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Are you sure the US is a developed country?

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

My parents took me to the doctor at the drop of a hat. Of course, this was many years ago, when healthcare was far, far more accessible.

Fuck the filthy rich. They've used their unearned influence and power to twist us against our own children. They're disgusting parasites we'd all be much better off without. Never defend a billionaire, they would never defend you.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago

I prefer not to read about anything happening in the US. It's always some horrible shit and it makes me depressed.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Part of me is outraged and angry at such a travesty.

The other larger part of me can't bring myself to care that these idiots are taking themselves out of the gene pool.

All parts of me are sad knowing that in the end this won't matter because they're just going to full Idiocracy and unfortunately their stupidity will overcome all of us.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Except they aren't taking themselves out of the gene pool

Kangas lost his own wife and their last child during labor 23 years ago. Three of his 65 grandchildren also have died.

65 fucking grandchildren.

Out of the 65, they allowed 3 to be ritualistically sacrificed to their own idiocy. They allowed them to suffer horrifically and die in pain. doing nothing.

I wonder if Kangas would go to the hospital to treat a bullet wound? perhaps we should test this theory

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[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Mor(m)on faith (lack of) healings

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