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context: lead dev was caught grooming children a few years ago and was kicked off the project. the new lead dev now got caught for the same thing and the whole community imploded and the remaining devs decided t axe the project

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[–] nkk@programming.dev 229 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

How hard is it to not groom kids guys

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 44 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Have you seen kids? Theyre begging for it!

Hard, heavy /s

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

It's ok to not be sarcastic about some things

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[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

In this example, the allegations here stem from inappropriate contact with minors in the age range of 15 to 17 years in a NSFW Discord server.

The problem is that in cases such as this, they’re not children so much as not yet adults. “Teenagers” used to be the common parlance for this age group and they are particularly interested in sexuality, while not having the cognitive tools or maturity to recognize or protect themselves from actual adults that will sexually abuse them.

The major issue in conflating “children” with “teenagers” is that these are distinct developmental periods in which the latter will literally beg for sex from adults who should not be involved in it with them. This is why we moderate and protect the sexuality of this age group - to mitigate the bad decisions that result from an intensely hormonal developmental period paired with increased cognitive and social liberty.

Teenagers are horny, and as such they need additional protections from people like groomy 20-something game devs. But infantilization that seeks to erase teenage sexuality and autonomy does nothing to protect them.

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[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

A certain unknowable % of the population is afflicted with pedophilia.

If you give a random person enough power (money/authority/prestige/etc.) to take advantage of children, there is approximately that same % chance of them exploiting that power, minus whatever fear they have of consequences.

Parents, please monitor your children's social media. If you're too busy, don't let them be on social media. They might face a bit of social stigma for not being on the latest brainrot app, but it's better than them being in the DMs of their favorite video game creators.

[–] Semicolon@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

IIRC the majority of child molesters are non-pedophilic in the clinical sense and I'd imagine this is even more true for post-pubescent minors. Additionally there have been neurological findings that differentiate offending vs non-offending pedophiles, mostly to do with risk-taking behaviors (as in, pedophiles that are generally risk-avoidant are also less likely to offend). So just being a pedophile might not be as strong of a prognostic factor for predicting abuse as one would think.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I admit my comment didn't get into the nuance of "pedophile" versus "child sex predator" and thus has gaps to fill, but one can only spend so much time on the internet.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean the Epstein class made sure the CIA and G7 only captured child rapists below a certain income.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
  1. I suspect the exclusivity is part of why they enjoy it. See POTUS's handwritten letter to Epstein on his birthday.

  2. The Epstein class would much rather stay out of the reach of the law even if it means some of their cohorts get away with rape.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I bet thats why Elon Musk was so angry. He wasn’t exclusive enough to be a part of the Epstein class so he’s making up for it by supporting Trump.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Imagine being left out of the sexual predator club and being upset about it.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

there is approximately that same % chance of them exploiting that power

I think that's a partially false equivalence. Acting on those feelings would require that you be OK with harming another person, and a child, no less. Most people aren't. The overlap comes from the fact that the rich and powerful often are, because that's how they got rich a powerful.

But the same way a normal person can be attracted to adults, but have no desire to rape, most pedofiles will have no desire to hurt anyone. (That, not the law, is why I think it's so rare).

Not hurting anyone and respecting consent is the easiest thing ever. Have you ever be so horny you'd fail at those things? I haven't. And I am a VERY horny person.

Nothing about pedofilia changes that part of how human self-determination works.

You only get the worst of the worst when the type of person that would rape, overlaps with pedofilia. The ones that act on it, DO choose. They are the literal worst among us.

them being in the DMs of their favorite video game creators.

THE most dangerous part of Roblox. The child dev studios led by adults are fucking horrifying. "Developers" becoming well-known Roblox game creators has given credibility to some absolutely horrible people to be around kids in ways that should never have been allowed.

And Roblox basically enables it with their Roblox -> Private Discord integration.

Because these child-labour powered "dev studios" is how they get their freaking games!

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah I admit my comment didn't get into the nuance of "pedophile" versus "child sex predator" and thus has gaps to fill, but one can only spend so much time on the internet.

Plus I'm used to Reddit (and other, more normie spaces) where making that distinction tends to bring on pedophile accusations.

[–] ManOMorphos@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Also, many child molesters aren't even specifically attracted to children. These types commit their crimes because children can be easier targets than adults at times.

The same %

It goes up with money and power. Why else is literally every single billionaire a pedophile?

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you're a politician, or for a regular person?

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hasnt the minecraft-type community (and i'd consider terraria a minecraft-type game. 2d, side scroller, and arcadey yes, but still a minecraft-type) always had a problem with people being creepy towards kids?

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 weeks ago

Terraria isn't really a community type game. It's way different than what minecraft became, or Roblox.

Regardless. You're taking my quip about all the pedo politicians too seriously.

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[–] kn33@lemmy.world 104 points 3 weeks ago

Damn, what a terrible situation for those people that worked hard and didn't diddle kids.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 99 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)
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[–] Airfried@piefed.social 52 points 3 weeks ago

I now regret learning about Terraria modding drama.

[–] logan_hero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 3 weeks ago

my calamity is machine that turns game developers into child predators Like 3rd developer getting outed from grooming. Reading 262 pages was bad enough now we have this mess

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

The idea of supporting a mod for ten years seems a bit wild to me. Back in my day, people just released mods when they were done and that was that.

Anyway.. it's not like the mod is going anywhere. Presumably you can play in its current state into perpetuity

[–] jaygray91@piefed.zip 13 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not too surprised really. modding old games and the mod pack takes literal decades to finish. for example red alert 2, tiberium sun, CNC generals (and zero hour) just for the ones that interest me.

bugs exists. modders fix bugs. especially so for games that are still getting updates, even one as scarcely updated as Terraria. I recall some long time ago the Terraria devs said the game is "finished" and then later on some big anniversary year they released a surprise update. my memory is faulty so don't quote me

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Tbf, there are mods that have just kept on getting more and more features and content added to them, and/or took a stupid amount of time to get to basically v1.0.

Black Mesa Source, the HL1 remake in HL2 engine... pretty sure that took a decade, was originally a mod.

Yes, by far most mods for most games are more... hah, 'modular', and tend to be basically just a single or few releases, but there are much more expansive mods of much larger scope, for many different games.

Basically, most 'total conversion' mods tend to be more like that... years of development toward a kind of end goal state, because they are basically making an entirely or massively different game, based on whatever particular original game.

That being said, I mean this just broadly for pc game mods. I don't play Terraria much, never even heard of this mod till this post/article.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 3 weeks ago

That's some teacher of defense against dark arts curse shit.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The allegations stem from alleged interactions Ozzatron had with teenage minors in a NSFW Discord server. The project lacks the resources to handle requests for removal of contributor content.

The fallout came fast, as composer CD Music resigned, the Catalyst side-project got shelved, and planned content like Sunken Sea never surfaced. Then, Contributors started requesting their work be pulled from the mod entirely, and since Calamity no longer has enough developers to process each request, ending development became, as the team put it, “the closest thing we can do to fulfilling everybody’s requests.”

Ozzatron, meanwhile, holds sole ownership of the mod’s GitHub, and he’s reportedly gone quiet since, which leaves the project’s future genuinely uncertain.

[–] rursta@retrolemmy.com 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Why is gamesradar protecting nonces with that headline‽

[–] thallamabond@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Probably an editor there with a "troubled past".

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 3 points 3 weeks ago

Click through I'd assume...

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

:(

Terraria is one of my favorites and I haven't had a chance to play Calamity. RetroAchevements had, remarkably, added support for the base game and I think there were hopes for set support of this and any other big mods (tracking completion, doing additional challenges, etc). I'm sure this puts some damper on those efforts.

I'll have up make do with just trying to finish the Completionist set if the craving hits again (it's insane, every item in the game must be collected!)

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Wait, so two subsequent lead developers got caught allegedly doing illegal stuff (with actual evidence and matching police reports I am assuming, because I won't read the article on that site), so now everyone else who liked the mod or worked on it are being punished for it?

Just get a new lead developer from the other developers already working on the mod and carry on. Its not the mod's fault the former lead devs did what they allegedly (I can only assume since I have not seen any evidence) did.

[–] 956@piefed.social 46 points 3 weeks ago

The remaining developers want to shutter it, as they say they feel they've been burned too many times.

That's what they did the previous time. Dude was a pedo. Again.

I don't really blame them.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Seems like it was... calamity prone.

I'll show myself out.

[–] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago

Calamity was such a cool mod and i was so excited to see the final boss and all the lore to be finished

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