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Full title: 92% of American adults aren’t going to a doctor because they cannot afford it. The health insurance industry must be dissolved & all of its executives criminally prosecuted for murder, conspiracy, and treason.

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[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 2 points 25 minutes ago

It is cheaper to keep people healthy through preventive care than it is to treat illness. From a taxpayer point of view, a single payer system would save us money.

But people are so propagandized in this country that they seriously think private insurance is the better option.

[–] Napster153@lemmy.world 2 points 35 minutes ago

This is the exact set up for a Black Plague event. I know people tend to hold a grudge over the Covid Lockdown, but do we really need to see bodies topple on the street before realisation is made?

This makes every zombie movie way more realistic than it has any right to be.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

All of the hospitals in my state were purchased by Atlantic Health.

My friend works for the hospital. The highlight of their quarterly meeting is how much profit the hospital now makes.

Why do hospitals need to make profit?!

Why are corporate owned hospitals even legal?!

I hate this timeline.

[–] PlasmaTrout@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 hours ago

Yes. Pretty much all I can say living here for 55+ years. Yes.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Going to the doctor costs like $400-500

It's insane

And It's the corporation that runs the clinic that gets to see the benefits from that, not the doctors

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago

Ah yes. Freedom. Don't y'all love it?

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

In fairness, 92% of us in UK aren't going to the doctor cos we can't get an appointment 😅

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago (1 children)

We have the same problem.

I have "good insurance", but it still takes 6 weeks to get an appointment. It's why "Urgent Care" clinics are taking over. They cost more than a GP, but less than an ER, but don't require appointments.

We also have places that pretty much pretend to be urgent cares, but have an ambulance parked out back so are technically an emergency room, and you don't realize it until you get a $1900 bill in the mail for your ear infection.

And then we have Urgent Care + ER places that are Urgent care during business hours, but after hours change into ERs, so if it takes too long to get in to the the NP your bill jumps 20 fold.

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 minutes ago

until you get a $1900 bill in the mail for your ear infection

Jeez. Isnt it covered by Insurance?

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 minutes ago

No honest. Unless you're willing to wait 4 to 6 weeks.

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I stopped going, time and money

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I just spent 5grand out of pocket because the doctor made me take a sleep test. They charged insurance nearly 20 grand.

They told me they found nothing and I was fine. I pointed out some flaws in their test but they weren’t interested in my opinion.

I cancelled my follow up appointment bc I can’t afford it, at least until this is paid off.

Also, I am not fine. I am very very tired.

Did you know if you meet your deductible they will won’t pay until you also meet the Out of Pocket Maximum? What’s the point of the deductible? I have no idea.

[–] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] lukaro@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago

I can afford to go to the doctor, I just can' afford that and the time off work to go.

[–] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

Remember, billionaires are nothing without their enablers like your local news anchors lying to you, their protectors like your local PD, or your neighbors in the military who would take orders to kill you for standing up for yourself and your community. Billionaires are inaccessible, their protectors and enablers are not.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

Smells like freedom. No wait, kinda like burning toast? I'd go to the doctor but it's too expensive.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

70,000 Americans die every year due to lack of access to health care.

How quickly do you think an issue would be addressed if it killed 70 billionaires a year?

[–] raze2012@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

if it killed even 1 we'd have a bill passed next week. For the billionaires, ofc. But they'd react fast.

Never fall under the delusion that the government needs everything to move like molasses.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 10 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

People pay a fortune in premiums, then another fortune in deductibles, before they can even use their insurance. Most families never actually get to that point unless they are "lucky" enough to have a family member who gets sick or injured badly enough to meet the deductible. Then you can finally use your insurance for the rest of the year.

We paid for years, and got literally nothing out of it, until I fell off a roof and got a bad concussion, and a big enough bill that our deductible was met. That was in September, so for the next few months we went to every doctor we needed, got every test we'd been putting off, etc. It was the only time we got full use of our insurance, so we took advantage of it, after paying in tens of thousands of dollars for years.

Medicare 4 All would give us full use of our insurance on January 1 every year, without having to worry about any deductibles. It might cost a couple of hundred extra dollars in taxes, but you'll save $600 month in health insurance premium, and $4500 per year in deductibles, so you'll come out far ahead, and have actual health insurance.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

I didn't even get to use my insurance.

We met our deductible for a baby. A month before birth our company switched insurance providers. Back to zero. I'm still paying hospital bills 7 months later.

[–] mrmisses@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

How did you see a doctor if you didn't make an appointment before September? It takes 4-5 months to see a doctor where I live. This country is such shit

[–] notabot@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

How do you know you'll need a doctor in 4 months??!? How do the other people booking that far out know they'll need one? When you need a doctor, you need one soon, preferably today. Do you just book an appointment per week and cancel if you don't need it?

[–] mrmisses@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

If it's an emergency - the er. If it's not an emergency - an "Urgent Care" type place. But not your actual Dr unless you plan months in advance.

[–] notabot@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

Are we talking "no, sorry I can't get a chest infection right now, I need to schedule an appointment with the doctor firat, but I should be able to fit you in in 4 months or so"? I ask because I know the US healthcare system is bad, but I have difficulty judging how bad.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

As an outsider seeing the US from the internet, can I guess that you didnt get Medicare 4 All because people went :

"4 All? But like, not those people too, surely? Oh hell no. Something something socialism bad."

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No, we didn't get it because our politicians are partly owned by the insurance companies.

The majority of people want Medicare for all and even more if you explain it without including the name.

[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

We nearly had a public option in the Affordable Care Act, but then Democrats watered down their proposal before it ever went to up for an actual vote thanks to Lieberman. Which of course ended up making it a huge boon to the insurance companies, resulting in our current state of affairs.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The public option was never going to be in the final bill. It was there to be negotiated out for republican votes. When they refused to play ball, Lieberman had to play the part of the bad guy.

[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Lol, they had a super majority at the time. They never needed the Republican votes.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

A large part of the democratic party identity at the time was bipartisanship. They used that as an excuse to water down any sort of public good legislation. It's why they started with a republican health insurance reform bill instead of single payer and it's why they ended up negotiating against themselves to drop the public option in the end.

[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm well aware. Still doesn't change the fact that it was a self-inflicted wound, and that they took out a public option when they didn't need to.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

They needed to because they were lobbied to. The people's will only matters when it aligns with what the wealthy that are in power want. When you realize this policy begins to make more sense.

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

That's the meme, but I think it's more that insurance companies spend fortunes to ~~bribe~~ lobby for politicians to vote against it, not to mention fortunes in propaganda to push the narrative that universal healthcare is more expensive.

[–] raze2012@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Universal healthcare is actually a bipartisan issue among the people. But as you expect, one side is really good at reframing terms to make it sound like It benefits the "non-deserving". The main "issue" over the decades is that everytime they try to creep this into making all insurance worse they get pushback.

So, kinda.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 8 points 6 hours ago

I don't have data, but as a pharmacy worker one thing that seems very apparent to me is people with non-european/white names getting way more insurance rejections.

Also, insulin and inhalers should not be so consistently headaches to deal with. Inhaler insurance issues make me want to rip my hair out.

[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 31 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

A lot of times, you just get a big bill without them doing anything useful for you.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Patient: "You misunderstand, the diagnosis isn't behind a lock, the medicine is."

Doctor: "Fair enough, I'll permanently label you as 'drug-seeking' and this isn't libel somehow."

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

Which they have to keep an eye out for because doctors fell for drugmakers' lies and overprescribed addictive opiates while claiming they aren't addictive (which makes it even easier to get addicted).

Or they just use that as an excuse to not have to deal with an annoying case they can't flash diagnose and then get offended if a patient decides to do their own research because the doctors they see can't be bothered.

I always think back to the time my ex was trying to get a diagnosis for a rare condition that matched her weird symptoms very well. She got a new family doctor, a young new doctor, and he would always dismiss her when she brought up wanting a referral to a clinic that specialized in it so they could diagnose her or rule it out. One time I went with her, she brought it up again, he said he didn't think she had it, and all I did was ask what made him think this wasn't the case and he admitted he didn't know much about it and would do some reading. On her next appointment, she didn't even have to ask because it was as obvious to him that she probably had it as it had been to us, he just gave her the referral.

So his justification for dismissing her belief she might have that condition was jack shit, probably involving imagining House saying "it's never lupus" or something like that. Like yeah, rare conditions are rare but some doctors treat that as if it's impossible instead of rare and then don't even bother learning how to tell.

The Dunning Kruger effect seems to be particularly strong in the medical field. Though to be fair, they do have to deal with their share of idiots and liars, but it makes them jaded rather than sharp.

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[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world -3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Not dissolved but it needs to be severely overhauled and they should be require to have actual medical knowledge.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 3 points 2 hours ago

Why would you want a system that introduces middle men and a need to turn a profit off of your health?

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