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[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are a few really loud people. Most of us don't care

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago (11 children)

The Alberta racists are being emboldened by Marlaina/Trump.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Now explain every other province.

E: It was rhetorical; this isn't a province-by-province kind of problem, nor it it an Alberta issue.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

20% of any population is not very smart and susceptible to emotional manipulation, schools don’t teach critical thinking very well, and 10% of a population is dark triad (‘evil’) or adjacent.

It should be pointed out that the last provincial election in BC came down to just a handful of voters in a couple of ridings. A few butterfly wingflaps and we could have had that mouth-breather Rustad as premier.

The rabid right feeds off of fear. Stop that shit when you see it.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Conservatives and American/Rowling propaganda

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Jordan Peterson, Pat King, Tamara Lich, Timbit Trump etc etc etc.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In BC it's the same shit honestly. The official opposition party just chose an extremely racist and transphobic leader. It's just people who are emboldened by the same shit happening down south and falling for disinformation/scapegoatism.

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[–] TerdFerguson@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Public support for trans and gender-diverse people is declining, and that decline is being driven by political and media discourse.

Yes, agree. It's a wedge issue because of how many complicated emotions it stirs up for certain groups. There is an ideological moral conflict attached to it, and certain powers understand that aggrevating this issue will help them move toward their goals. So it gets used as a distraction and is highly publicized.

The truth is, this is an issue that should not really be so significant of a problem as it is. We should not concern ourselves with how somoene else chooses to be and live in their life if it causes us no quantifiable harm. Some people believe the fear or disgust they feel is a harm and they might rationalize their beliefs about the work force or about kids safety in an effort to substantiate their feelings, but they are wrong.

I think about some of the narrative around the Tumbler Ridge shooter, Jessie Van Rootselaar, that vehemently blames transgenderism for the atrocity. But the real story is, there was a neglected and ostracized kid that came from a broken home and was surround by unhealthy role models and no supports. They also had access to guns and a blind eye was turned to many of the warning signs that predicated the tragedy. The trans thing is such a footnote in the overall picture yet it becomes a common headline for certain readers.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

"Do you support gender diversity?" "Well, our government says if I don't, it's potentially a hate crime/hate speech -- sorta like calling out the genocide in Israel gets termed as such, or questioning the narrative around first nations -- so, uh, yes, I support it, sure whatever, so long as there's no financial commitment involved or followup questions. Let me get back to my life".

As the commenter below demonstrated, there is a growing number of Canadians falling for misinformation.

Bill C-9 was about stopping hateful people from using religion to justify the crimes they had already committed. But the propogandists told them it classified the bible as hate speech.

Clearly they are misappropriating Pro-Palestine censorship in the UK to validate their entitlement to baselessly espouse residential denialism.

Most of my community is Christian/conservative and while I see more people espousing anti-trans views, it's all chronically online people who I know personally stopped forming their own opinions in 2016.

The context behind poll numbers like this is that MAGA is scraping the bottom the barrel. Same total support, but more MAGAs signing up to answer surveys.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

If it helps, I had previously tagged that poster as "Islamophobic cunt" so they've been on the wrong side of history.

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I think part of the issue is there's a lot of misinformation. Someone told me today that they heard about someone claiming their baby was transgender. I highly highly doubt that happened. Transgender advocates believe people should say for themselves what gender they identify with, no sane person would presume to speak for a baby. I could see someone maybe trying to avoid thinking of their baby as one gender or the other until they're old enough to self-identify. But there are a lot of weird stories out there about transgender people acting like lunatics and, although most of them probably aren't true, people believe these stories and use them as reasons to be transphobic. And there's the persistent lie that transgender people are lopping penises off of six-year-olds and other things like that.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s the satanic panic all over again, once again being pushed by Christian extremists.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Well look how that ended for them D&D is huge, BG3 and fantasy adjacent media is beloved, paganism and the like are growing, and gender roles are melting.

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

the Internet is flourishing with femboys and fursonas

once the moral panic around trans people fade (hopefully I'll be alive to see it), what will be left behind in peace will hopefully be a bunch of institutions that were able to thrive on that pride despite all the pushback

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Don’t forget the heavy metal, which was also a target and now more popular than ever

But yeah fuck those assholes. Real patriots believe all their countryfolk have the right to live as they choose.

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[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Personally I think treating babies as babies is the sane option, it’s bizarre to me we dress literal babies in extremely gender identifying ways… they’re a baby! Me choosing greens and yellows, purples and grays isn’t saying my baby is trans it’s saying my baby is a baby and if you want to know more about them you should talk to me about them… it’s really not complicated.

The hyper fixation on gender for babies and kids is bonkers

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[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok, so can we put an end to labelling people as 'eggs' without their input?

Age is the only difference between the two. And yet, one seems to get a free pass in the community.

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 2 points 1 month ago

So interesting, I was literally just talking about this last night with some friends.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

So this is exactly what I said in another post earlier. Canada is America in a time delay. Once this effects enough people relatable, it will level off. But a lot of trans people will be hurt in the mean time.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

And you can really feel it.

[–] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One of the questions:

"1. People should be able to express their gender however they choose."

Is pretty open ended. That can mean something different to many people.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Yes, that is precisely the point

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[–] Foxer@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (25 children)

This probably won't be popular but it is true nonetheless.

What has happened is that people, on the both the right and the left, bring up legitimate concerns with regards to gender diversity issues. They're concerned that we might be going overboard with preferential hiring, they have concerns about men and women's showers and the like, and while there are often answers and discussions to be had around these issues even if you don't agree with them they are legitimate

But instead of treating them like legitimate issues and engaging with people that have these concerns unfortunately the transgender advocate community and many on the left have lashed out and basically called anybody who has questions about any of this transphobic scum who need to be locked up and should be disposed of and silence and any other nasty names they can think of.

This tends to polarize these positions and people start feeling attacked and they tend to move into the anti-transgender camp. A child is banned from a school just for saying he believes there's two genders 100 parents out there start thinking the things have gone too far and if they see a chance they'll oppose this

Then you wind up with two sides. And there's never any discussion between two sides, it's just us versus them and them versus us.

And once that takes hold it's really hard to beat. Unfortunately transgender rights issues got handled very poorly in the last six or seven years and now there's growing opposition that's not being driven by rational concerns but rather tribalism

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It's true that that is your opinion. It reflects on you and your subjective experiences, perceptions, and interpretations; not on reality. Introducing an opinion as "it's true" can come across pretty closed-minded.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you had actual experience of this or is it something you read about?

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