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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/68922797

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 52 points 6 days ago

“It has become impossible to tell managers mesmerised by artificial intelligence that the tools are not, in fact, helpful. So employees just play along with the fiction to keep their jobs, writes our tech columnist”

Very good article, definitely worth a read

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 38 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The motivation behind this religious zeal is a WORLD WITHOUT WORKERS.

All the times these fuckers tell us we can't have worker's rights, we can't have UBI, we can't have universal healthcare, we can't have subsidized housing, etc., because it's unrealistic remember that they crashed the world economy in a vain attempt to create 99% unemployment.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Yes, but I quibble only slightly here in that I think you might be implying they think or care about the larger picture. They want to not pay workers at their company. They don't really give a shit about anything else.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 10 points 5 days ago

AI is changing everything, and the changes are all horrible.

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I mean... Everything is changing for the worse.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That’s been happening since way before AI

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Yeah well they certainly upped the tempo with this bullshit.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 6 days ago

Idk man, there's great drugs to prevent the spread of HIV now

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] reka@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

As far as websites go, I'd trust The Nerve more than 99% of others considering who owns and runs it. Ghostery lists Sentry and Perimeterx trackers only which are internal user behaviour monitoring and security tools.

Maybe you know this but I just feel the need to slightly defend then here in case anyone assumes it's the typical far more invasive cross-site tracking.

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean it does change everything in that you quickly find out who is paying attention.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Yup. Ed ZItron is a programmer (I guess) and he had another programmer on his show and they both agreed: AI is extremely helpful in finding them clients they want to work with. That is to say, clients who are constantly asking for full AI-integration are going to be garbage to work for, clients who please say do not use AI in the product in any way are going to be great to work for.

[–] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

That is an excellent read!

[–] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He is not a programmer, he's actually into PR.

And Ludic, the guy he had on, said exactly the opposite.

AI is very unhelpful because it excites the terrible customers you don't want to deal with, and puts off the good ones you would have been happy with.

Either way it ends the possibility of a fruitful exchange of Information.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

Listen to the whole thing. It's in there a good deal after your bit.

[–] galoisghost@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago

The people who I work with will spend 15 minutes telling me both how great AI is and how hard it is to get it to do what you want it to do. They just don’t even listen to what they are saying.

Example: “What did you do on the weekend?” “Oh I found this cool new AI tool that lets you do . It only did and I had to do a bit of work to fix it up. But how cool?!”

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl -4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Curious how Cory sidesteps the way that AI has affected cybersecuity.

https://securityaffairs.com/194016/ai/anthropics-mythos-ai-broke-into-almost-all-nsa-classified-systems-in-hours.html)

Mythos broke into almost all of the NSA's classified systems in the matter of hours. It's damn good at breaking things.

Edit: wow, I'm really surprised by the ignorance of down voters here. Look at the security bugs found in FOSS by AI. AI is trash for writing code, but it's way faster than humans at breaking code.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There is a huge conflict of interest with that claim being from the AI industry and the US government, with both being interested in overstating the capabilities of the model.

Also, Romanian college kids used to routinely break into US military webpages in the 90s, so IDK what the novelty is.

Tell me when they cause damage or are prosecuted, until then, it's just an as, likely exaggerated or straight up false.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Especially from Anthropic, who has long maintained the position that their AI is dangerous, and is currently in a cock counting competition with OpenAI about who can hack the most companies first, and thus has the most dangerous model.

The whole thing has just started turning into a farce of "oh, well actually, my AI hacked companies before yours and did it to more companies than your AI".

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The US outlawed selling this product after that happend. That cuts your claim of marketing for CoI down.

And comparing a public website with a secured intranet is absured. As is comparing security systems of the 90s (when we used DES) to modern security systems.

Tell me when they cause damage or are prosecuted, until then, it's just an as, likely exaggerated or straight up false.

Again, it sounds like you didn't read the article. They were hired for this security audit. It wasn't rogue. There won't be a prosecution of their contractor lol.

They were just shocked at how effective it was. Most penetration tests don't have that many critical vulnerability findings.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, they outlawed it way before, but they didn't outlaw that of OpenAI that also claimed to hack HuggingFace.

It's also very convenient to outlaw a product that does not exist as advertised.

And "they were shocked" is not a metric. Compare it to the existing state of the art in a test controlled by a party with no conflict of interest and I'll believe it happened.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You obviously didn't read the article. Those are entirely different things.

Your obvious ignorance is showing.

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