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Sixty minutes. That’s how long it took for a private Snapchat message to travel from Kristen Volpe’s phone to the FBI to the deputies standing in her elementary school hallway. On January 29, 2025, the 22-year-old student teacher at John L. Hensey Elementary in Washington, Illinois, vented to her boyfriend and two roommates — three people total — after a student closed her laptop mid-class and wiped her lesson plan. She referenced shooting the student or the school. She meant it as a frustrated joke. Snapchat’s algorithm didn’t get the humor.

No student reported her. No parent. No coworker. The flag was entirely automated. Snapchat’s policy permits voluntary emergency disclosures to law enforcement — no warrant required — when the platform determines imminent harm exists. The algorithm makes that initial call. Think of it like your Ring doorbell deciding to call 911 on its own, except the doorbell is reading your text messages.

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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 445 points 1 week ago (47 children)

The amount of people in this thread that seem to think invasion of privacy is cool to police thought crime is honestly shocking. The subject and subject matter are completely irrelevant.

In addition, teachers are fucking people and venting and joking in private with close friends is sacrosanct.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 169 points 1 week ago (7 children)

My guess is most are very young. Goes to show our civil liberties worldwide, especially since 9/11, have eroded tremendously. Young people have grown up in a world where privacy is a joke and government spying is a foregone conclusion.

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[–] TheLegendaryAssholeOfJushinLiger@sh.itjust.works 102 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The idea that mass violence, which happens very rarely all things considered, justifies constant mass surveillance and automated reaction is very troubling. The new "think of the children," I suppose.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

In fact, we also have countries with less surveillance and less mass violence. And that's most countries these days. There's been only one single school shooting ever in my country and I actually knew people at that school at the time (my ex had graduated from there, but her cousin was still attending). 8th or 9th grade boy with a strict military father was being bullied by a teacher so he shot the teacher. That teacher would give him bad grades knowing his father would punish him for it (someone said he'd have to run 20 km home from school if he got a bad grade, but I'm not sure if that's true), mocked him apparently, etc. Not trying to justify the kid's actions, just illustrating what it took to get someone in a country other than the US to even go that far. He didn't announce his plans to his friends beforehand AFAIK, so surveillance wouldn't even have caught it.

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Dark humour is half of what keeps people going in Jobs where the situation is dire. You have to let it out somehow, if you just let it bottle up you'll explode and won't be able to do the job anymore.

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[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 173 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

This warrantless mass surveillance technology chain can also easily be used to silence dissent, chill speech, and oppress by race, religion, gender, sexuality, pregnancy status, and any other status so deemed problematic by those with state power. This is not a power delegated to the government by the constitution, and it was not built to protect the people.

We accept impositions on our liberty for the protection of the general welfare. Did this actually protect us?

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[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 169 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Welcome to the brave new world.

Next step: Automated execution.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 154 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Now that you know everything on Snapchat is going through active automated filtering, consider what Snapchat has chosen NOT to flag and is allowing to flow freely, like sex trafficking and the sale of minors.

As unfair and life-changing as this event has been for this young teacher, I think the actual story of what Snapchat (and every other digital communication method) is reading/tracking yet allowing is a much, much bigger story. And dirtier. With billionaires and pedophiles and all manner of nasty allowables we do not yet know.

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[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 110 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's HEARTENING to Know these Platforms have the ABILITY to STOP atrocities and Almost Always choose NOT too! <3

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago (14 children)

yeah.

Its amazing how they never once stopped an actual act of violence, but someone venting about a stressful day gets a full swat deployment.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 100 points 1 week ago (14 children)

So the lesson to the rest of us is DO NOT USE SNAPCHAT especially for private messaging.

I use Signal, was pressed to do so by privacy-minded friends and have pressed other friends to adopt the client.

So long as you don't accidentally include Jeffrey Goldberg in your chat, you're okay.

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 96 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Questions for the ridiculous number of people on here who are perfectly willing to give up their right to privacy because you believe it makes schools and other places safer:

Have you read the 50+ page user agreement for your cell phone company? How about the user agreements of every app that has access to your cell phone, your PC mic or apps that have access to your files? Late model cars have microphones too, as do TV remotes. Microsoft has access to everything on your Windows PC. I'd give 100 to 1 odds that 99% of you haven't read any of those user agreements OR the UA for private chat apps you are using. Likewise are you sure any cloud storage you're using isn't scanning your documents for forbidden phrases?

Since you haven't read every word of each and every user agreement and think it keeps schools safe, you should be just fine with the fact that EVERYTHING you say or write may be available to law enforcement, even if you're talking to yourself while sitting on the toilet in your home. If you mutter that you'd like to kill someone or burn something misheard as a school building to the ground you are just fine with AI flagging it and the police knocking on your door in an hour, right? You'll also be just fine with losing your career and your job never being able to find another one, right? Right? After all, other people never know WTF someone dangerous and violent is going to do.

The number of people on here who are perfectly willing to give up all their rights and have their private communications monitored for something that is nothing more than security theater is unbelievable.

[–] anarchyrabbit@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My gawd. People are missing the issue here. You described it pretty well OP.

Yes there are weirdos and they must be caught. Algorithms are getting out of hand though, targeting their wrong people and not the weirdos. There is a massive privacy issue here. Must every text that we send be accessible by the government? I don't buy the argument of "I have nothing to hide". When you are in the hot seat they will use any info they can get their hands on. make an offside joke they will use it.

Fuck this shit.

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[–] fum@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Welcome to reality. Snapchat, WhatsApp, Facebook, intsagram, etc. They are not private. Just don't use them. It's wild how people are willfully ignorant about this.

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[–] Corvidae@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Is it legal for a service to be called private when it is programmatically shared with law enforcement?

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It shouldn't be. Everyone needs to wise up to life in a police state now. Right now.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There's a reason why Donald and his friends in Washington have all of their discussions on Signal.

Also, if you're not already, just assume every app and device are spying on you.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Marvel at how AI stopped this non-existent threat, while also giving advice on the best way to kill yourself, or get the highest kill score in a mass shooting, or hack into other corporations.

Sure, this tech isn't ever going to start directly killing people it has determined are a problem, flipping off life support machines, crashing autonomous vehicles, etc.

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[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 51 points 1 week ago (24 children)

Man that was a stupid thing to joke about on a service like Snapchat

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[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 week ago (15 children)

That this is technologically possible at all should terrify you.

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[–] UnLocoPoco@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

The duality of AI....one stops nonexistent threats another one happily puts you into danger

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

Welcome to post Constitution USA.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This bullshit is getting out of hand.

I know it's not nearly the same level, but over on reddit I participated in a thread. Nevermind full context, someone said something about "The first half of life [something]", someone replied "and the second half of life [something]" and I jokingly said "And the third half of life, you're dead."

Couple replied to that - it was minorly amusing in context - and one of them said "Now I'm sad". So I jokingly said "Well, good news is you won't be sad when you're dead".

Within a few minutes, I got a warning from reddit and the comment removed.

So I appealed the warning (because if AI removes another comment, you get a 3 day suspension, then 7 day, then 30 day, then permanent), but also rephrased the commeny and basically make the joke while not even saying "dead", but I also rolled my eyes at the reddit AI.

I almost immediately got a permanent ban.

THEN THE STUPIDEST BIT: They overturned the warning BUT KEPT THE PERMANENT BAN.

Fucking idiots.

Dont' judge me for still spending some time on reddit, I mod a couple of places. THAT account is still going, but I also don't use that account except to mod because of this bullshit with reddit that's been getting worse.

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[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To the witless idiots defending authoritarianism to stop school shootings, If this sort of shit stopped school shootings then I guess we wouldn't have school shootings.

Guess it doesn't. https://www.edweek.org/leadership/school-shootings-this-year-how-many-and-where/2026/01

I do get the angry anti-2A people willing to take everyone's guns to stop school shootings, because besides one italian kid shooting an insurance CEO, you aren't really making good use of that amendment to hold your government accountable in the first place.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The statute is constructed in an unusual way because it doesn't require that the threat is transmitted to someone who believes it. It says:

(a) A person commits disorderly conduct when he or she knowingly:

...

(3.5) Transmits or causes to be transmitted in any manner a threat of destruction of a school building or school property, or a threat of violence, death, or bodily harm directed against persons at a school, school function, or school event, whether or not school is in session;

Laws against transmitting threats are usually written in a manner that excludes jokes sent to friends who understand that they are jokes.

Also, use Signal. Signal will not call the cops when you send dumb jokes to your friends. There are no good reasons for most people to not use Signal.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Fully automated rightwing deathcamps when?

[–] wizzer@eviltoast.org 26 points 1 week ago (5 children)

closed her laptop mid-class and wiped her lesson plan

So what awful setup was she running where the laptop doesn’t just sleep on lid close, and the document isn’t still there on wake? Who prepares a document to work from that isn’t saved?

The rest is some 1984 bullshit, but I’m wondering what the hell is wrong with that laptop.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Who the fuck still uses Snapchat?

Ditch that shit.

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