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[–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, I am concerned. I paid $100+ on a proton bundle subscription during the Black Friday sale, it came with half a terabyte cloud storage, a fast and Private vpn, and a proton pass which integrates well with the email provider. It was cheap, and private, and it all works well together.

Proton is owned 60 something percent by the proton non profit organisation, which makes regular donations to other private project's like GrapheneOS. It’s worked well for me. But this is really concerning considering I oppose fascism, and broadly want to support a leftist, anti-capitalist movement.

This also sucks because the far right want their internet privacy as much as the anti capitalist left. Does this mean proton is an evil company, that even if it has good, private technology, should be boycotted? When frankly, if the left boycotted, and didn’t participate in any capitalist organisation, we would likely starve to death.

Could this just be a marketing issue? Ffs the consumer should not be blamed for the faults of a company, and using their product.

People in this thread love to dunk on proton but they don't have time to heavily investigate all the sponsorships and affiliate links, they're too busy actually keeping the service up and secure.

Here's proton's response

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/26484589

[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ironically I am happier with cock.li than proton

(context: owned by 4chan user (with a grain of salt(?)) but it's best i've found :/ )

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All of us could use some cock.li

[–] ferric_carcinization@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What does the "li" after the end of your sentence mean?

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] ferric_carcinization@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's how life tends to evolve into crab-like forms. I'm not good at thinking up usernames, so it was the best I came up with. I like the Rust language, and the language's mascot is a crab. So, my username is about the tendency of codebases to turn to Rust.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Ah I see. Not well, but I see. Ferric triggered my question because I use Ammonium ferric cyanide and Ammonium ferric citrate. You mix those two things together in warm water to create Mike Ware's NewCyanotype formula. Then you paint them over paper or other surfaces and expose them to UV light under a photo negative. The result is that a blue print photo is created. Then you wash away that image in water. The blue bits are water insoluble so they stay. The rest is dissolved And floats away.

[–] diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seems kind of unnecessary at the end there, doesn't it? Not like the sentence has anything to do with the country.

[–] SoftBun@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They also sponsor a far-right influencer in Brazil.

This guy is literally a grandson of a dictator of the military dictatorship. He was also one of the articulators of the 2023 coup attempt, pressing the military to join

very cool proton

edit: giving more context in case someone wants to post this in their subreddit (I won't): his name is Paulo Figueiredo and he still have a proton vpn sponsor link in every video on youtube.

[–] Onyx376@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago

I'm from Brazil and I hadn't seen this yet. It's disgusting! Dude, Proton never again! They are financing the most rotten things in Brazil! Very sad and revolting!

[–] procapra@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

The corporation sponsors the pro capitalist ideologue? I'm shocked.

[–] edel@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Three things on Proton:

  1. Proton mail has been in a rampage with sponsor YouTube channels and, in my opinion, that is a mistake. I would have kept it an organic growth, but that is me... a nobody, and Proton has become far more successful than no other email provider in the privacy world.

  2. Considering even that, Proton is not vetting who is sponsoring. This is a fiasco. For instance they try to sponsor the channel "The hated one" that never takes any sponsors and even constantly criticizes channels that does it. That is a mayor blunder for Proton, there is no scrutiny at all with their marketing deployment. By the way, we learned that that youtubers get a juicy amount by Proton in these sponsorships (I think was $70 per subscription).

  3. Proton, for years, has been aiming for the masses, not the most serious in privacy (for instance, androidś Proton email still uses Google push services). That is not bad per se, I still recommend Proton to many. But those with a more ideological approach to privacy or those requiring top notch on it, should be aiming for other service providers.

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[–] barryamelton@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm so happy I moved away from them a year and something ago. This was totally predictable

[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] barryamelton@lemmy.world 1 points 56 minutes ago

tuta.io & mailbox.org

[–] Rindogang@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

I was afraid Proton would eventually go down the far right route... and it seems like my fears came true

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

their CEO publicly announced support for trump; anyone saying otherwise about proton's proclivities is coping too hard -- especially the ones in this community.

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

you can say this about literally every tech company these days.

[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Which is why we support Open Source like Firefox, Thunderbird, GIMP, NextCloud, LibreOffice and a whole lot more. :-)

[–] PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

I don't need VPN... Sorry mate.

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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago

very true; capitalists will always capital.

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[–] DaGammla@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Using Proton always seemed like a bad idea. People come to Proton in order to deGoogle or de-big-tech but then lock themselves into their ecosystem, defeating the entire purpose.
Not mention how scummy their PR-Team, their CEO and their Business Practices are.
So many Proton sponsered content creators spread lies about how Proton Mail is supposedly E2E encrypted or how Proton VPN is supposedly a privacy and security tool.
Time and time again they have lied about how much data they have and how much they have disclosed to investigating agencies.

The only way I could ever undestand someone using Proton Mail would be to use their service but behind your own domain, such that migrating away stays easy.

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[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Thanks for the heads up. Haven't really used Proton, but I have a few accounts in case of... But now they will be deleted.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Such companies "sponsor" everyone. It's cheaper than normal advertisements.

[–] alastel@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You've got some companies advertising with streamers/youtubers that do some checks on who they advertise with. They use specialised communication agencies, it's their job.

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