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[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 183 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

*in the US. Norway has charged Thorbjørn Jagland and in the UK Peter Mandelson and the Andrew formerly known as Prince were arrested, plus a number of other countries have criminal investigations ongoing. All so far for corruption rather than sex crimes but that's probably a function of what's easier to prove in court.

[–] jestho@lemmy.zip 96 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the Andrew formerly known as Prince

this gave me a good chuckle

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 19 points 2 months ago

He was released quickly. He and the diplomat were only arrested for leaking state secrets. GHCQ couldn't even pretend to give a fuck about the kids, rapes, murders, etc...

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 69 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Andrew formerly known as Prince

Iirc, that was for sharing state secrets, not for being a pedophile rapist.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago (4 children)

On the one hand, whatever sticks. On the other, WHY can’t we somehow make child sex trafficking charges stick?

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 months ago

Because when the top people presiding over sex trafficking cases look in the mirror, they find 14 year old girls attractive too.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 months ago

Because money and power are more important to people making decisions than doing things for the betterment of society.

Sadly the best people to lead are usually people who don't want positions of power like that.

Not that anyone in the "royal" family did literally anything to get where they are...

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[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 28 points 2 months ago

Andy was released after 11 hours. The british "police" keep tradesmen in jail longer for having a utility knife on them.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Im going to hell for laughing at that Prince joke.

[–] TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm going to hell because I can't find my wallet I think I left it there

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[–] gilarelli@jlai.lu 147 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry, they'll get to it once the Panama Papers are dealt with 😎👍

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 2 months ago

Wouldn't even be a far fetch to believe one of the reasons nothing happens around the Epstein papers are the assassinations of journalists who investigated the Panama papers…

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 80 points 2 months ago (3 children)

And they say they can't catch criminals if end to end encryption exists. All this was over email in plaintext with their primary addresses.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You're not distinguishing between "can't" (e2e) and "won't" (the obscenely rich).

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[–] Drekaridill@lemmy.wtf 74 points 2 months ago (5 children)
[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 94 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The released files contain the anonymous tips people sent in, including ones sent after Epstein became public knowledge. This tip was likely fake (or at least the fading embers of my faith in humanity hope it is), but we'll never know for sure due to the DOJ's refusal to investigate any of it.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's good that they don't investigate it now. They'd just bury anything they want and purposefully do a bad job. If a shred of normalcy ever returns to the White House then it can be investigated properly

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You mean like when Biden was in power?

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Silly Biden - back then it was presumed that the president shouldn't interfere with investigations like that. They should be done apolitically, and independently.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Communications use shortcuts. You didn't define what "return to normalcy" was and I didn't put restrictions on what that meant. After the first trump presidency, there was already a "return to normalcy" in which the US government was in stable enough hands to do all that, and nothing happened.

I wasn't saying that "Biden needed to personally handcuff trump and put him behind bars" I was saying "the US already returned to a state of normalcy where the correct investigation could have happened and justice dealt, however this was not done."

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[–] Seimhe@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

the fading embers of my faith in humanity

I feel seen.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

As I heard it, literal newborn infant cannibalism.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 2 months ago (11 children)

And given how literally everything the right says is projection, it matches up completely with the shit they were accusing Hillary Clinton of

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[–] DillDough@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago (5 children)

There's straight up emails and texts of him questioning chefs about it they can make "shrimp" in all the colors, the potential chefs are disgusted by "shrimp" but think it could be worth the money. Shrimp is their term for fetus.

Also let's not forget about the jerky and all the people who just absolutely had to have more like it was a crack addiction and how they couldn't get more jerky when Epstein was "trying to get back on normal food".

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[–] shittydwarf@piefed.ca 68 points 2 months ago
[–] yesman@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Viewing justice as the punishment of the guilty is conservatism 101.

The real failure is that no legislation, law-enforcement, or court action has been taken to address why billionaires can snatch little girls off the street. The real failure is that rape is barely even illegal in the US, and it's viewed as right and proper when powerful men have access to little girls the same way their wealth provides them with access to all rare and desirable objects.

This isn't because our leaders are sick, it's because our society is. These men didn't steal our daughters, we sold them out, cheap. No amount of Presidents in prison will change that.

[–] turdburglar@piefed.social 50 points 2 months ago (9 children)

well let’s try putting a president in prison to test your theory in the meantime.

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[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And we see only the tame half of the Epstein files. The other 3 mil have not been released

[–] Janx@piefed.social 12 points 2 months ago

Exactly. It's not random, they keep the worst, most damaging parts redacted or unreleased...

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imagine being P. Diddy, lol. I'd be so salty.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

To be clear before I say this, I hope Diddy rots and he definitely did that shit in my opinion and more folks(Kevin Hart for example) should be punished for their involvement, but it’s really the most darkly hilarious example of systemic racism, that he’s the mass rapist/sex trafficker/abuser getting sent away forever, meanwhile to my knowledge, nobody accused anyone of eating a baby at Diddys parties, but the rich white folks that allegedly raped and ate babies are getting elected president

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[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Anyone remember the Panama papers?

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[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You see why they rather bomb Iran than deal with the Epstein case

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Advocating for them (the government, whatever team they happen to be on) acting on the Epstein files is like asking a toddler nicely to punish themselves. It is not in their best interest to do so, because it hurts their main benefactor, the owning class. The only way to have a shot at this happening is if the government is no longer owned by the owning class. To get there, you'd need to get rid of a number of things:

  • the threat of capital flight ("if you do something I don't like, I will take my gizmo factory elsewhere")
  • the ability of the owning class to shape the opinions of the electorate through owning the media (social and legacy) they consume
  • the ability of the owning class to legally bribe politicians ("if you do this thing I like, you will get a cushy job at my gizmo factory, or I'll pay you 500k to talk at my event for an hour", also super PACs)

Until you get rid of all this, no one (on any side of the aisle) will ever do anything about the epstein files, no matter how many parades/protests you do. Your collective votes do not weigh up against the three points I mentioned. See also the Panama papers.

Oh and voting doesn't work to fix the three points, because the three points ensure that most candidates (on either side of the aisle) do not benefit from doing anything about them, and the ones that do don't have much of a shot at winning (see point 2).

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 13 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Cannibalism? Hadn't heard that part before.

[–] slowmolaggins@thelemmy.club 26 points 2 months ago (6 children)

There were a few emails from people asking epstein for some of his jerky. Annoyed replies saying that the supply of jerky given them should have lasted longer. Then an email from Maxwell saying something to the effect of "there will be no more jerky for a while, Mr. Epstein has decided to return to normal food."

I do not know in what other context that could have possibly been other than cannibalism.

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

And more! There's a Rothschild couple emailing about hunting humans something to the tune of "...bagged one and guess what?! They're n*ggers!"

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My son talks about it all the time. Apparently they had codes and some of them were for eating babies.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Not exactly - congressional investigations are going on, but processes IRL don't produce results in 22 minutes like on TV. It doesn't work like, "We see you're in the files, welcome to jail."

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

Dude it's been like a decade since this stuff hit the front page of the news, come the fuck on with the shitty apologism

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[–] ReHomed@lemmy.cafe 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] anugeshtu@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Is it just "this country"?

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