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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

Wherein backups falling consists entirely of one self report of the users self written backup script not working followed by him seeing commit messages indicating usage of ai with zero effort to show work diagnose the cause or bisect to failing commit despite poster being a hobbyist who dabbles in programming.

Trust me bro.

[–] BromSwolligans@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

I wonder about the timing of this. I just got a backup NAS out at my mom's house some miles away and for one or two beautiful days I was sending Rsync differential backup jobs through the vendor interface for backups over Wireguard. The NAS is still on my network over WG, comes back up in that way after a reboot…but for the last week, those backup jobs just break with a useless error. I haven't had the time to look under the hood at logs but I've been assuming this was slopping config on my part cause I'm new at it. But it would almost be a relief if it was just a bad update (before the graver implications of the situation set in on my mind). I wish I had enough background in this stuff to be useful, but I'm just a bystander and a grateful, useless end user.

[–] lemmyfier222@sopuli.xyz 22 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Just gonna copy what tridge said:

bottom line is if you want to be useful then pick holes in the test suite, find things it doesn't cover, find interactions between options it doesn't pin down, report those and offer fixes for that.

Why ask for forks or alternatives?

[–] Shayeta@feddit.org 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

B-but... I want to RAGE against the machine, not work!

[–] brianary@lemmy.zip 9 points 9 hours ago

rsync is thirty years old. It has been mature and reliable. But now we're victim-blaming someone that hasn't (yet) cleaned up somebody else's mess?

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 113 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

For those who don't know, "tridge" is legendary.

He casually reverse engineered Microsoft's SMB protocol, creating Samba, back when windows file sharing was a key part of Microsoft's lock in. He also isn't just the maintainer of rsync, he invented the algorithms it uses. People who worked with him consider him a genius and a guru.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 51 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

How much you want to bet he's just bombarded by the "ai security reports arms race" I saw on here a couple days ago, where people use LLMs to find security holes in open source projects (likely a form of 'fuck the dev' training)? I mean, for hundreds of reports to come in, some of which I'm sure are legitimate, is overwhelming to a team... and he's just one dude.

Edit. Looks like I may have been right. User Chairman Meow posted an excerpt from Discord that basically says that. Even legends get lonely, it seems.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 45 points 15 hours ago

Yep. A solo dev working on a project. Legitimate security flaws found by people who don't know much of anything about coding, but can prompt an LLM. They don't even understand the bugs they're submitting, so if he has questions they can't help.

His choice is either to spend all of his free time trying to patch these bugs, or to look for help. It's very hard to find help as a solo dev on an unsexy but essential tool. So, he turned to LLMs to help. And, who knows, maybe he's able to use them slightly more responsibly than other devs. But, LLMs almost inevitably lead to their own bugs because LLMs are always confident, and are designed to produce something that looks as much as possible like real working code, but without any actual thought or analysis behind them.

[–] mudkip@lemdro.id 20 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Which makes it all the more disturbing that he has turned to slopmachines.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 61 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

If you read the discord chat logs, it makes sense. He's being bombarded by security vulnerabilities discovered via LLMs, from people who barely know how to code and can't even explain the flaw that their LLM discovered. He's a solo maintainer, and his choice is either to leave these security vulnerabilities open, or to turn to LLMs to try to keep up with the need for patches.

I don't think he made the right choice, but I think he's probably a much better programmer than me.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't think he made the right choice, but I think he's probably a much better programmer than me.

I'm a senior dev that works with LLMs these days and been running dozen people teams before and reading slop code is a skill that needs to be built through months/years of work no matter how good of a programmer you are - it's a different skill set.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

This is about to be a big thing. LLMs are very good at finding exploits and creating scripts to exploit them. Now a script kiddy is much more powerful. Companies are trying to figure out how to respond. Red Hat's Project Lightwell is one such project.

https://www.redhat.com/en/lightwell

[–] hark@lemmy.world 46 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

You may not like it, but this is what 10x productivity looks like.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

This is negative productivity. It worked before, and now it doesn't.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Okay, I imagine that using an LLM is like having several Tasmanian Devils on your team.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

But when it worked there was no work being done. The repo just stayed there, working. Doing nothing.

A few LLM commits have kickstarted the process of a lot of people checking their rsync versions, choosing the correct one. And so on. That is work that wasn't being done before, and now it is done thanks to LLMs. Truly a wonder of our times.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

Reminds me of that Douglas Crockford talk on managers. I'll see if I can dig it up.

I wonder what he thinks about LLMs.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 29 points 17 hours ago

Move fast and break things. Features over stability.

Makes sense for a lean startup. Not so much for a widely used utility for backing up important data.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 52 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

I'm starting to think that I don't want to use Arch anymore and thus always be among the first to get all the new slop.

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