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It became the only reliable source of information I had. People posted links with a minimal amount of commentary, picking and choosing the best content from other social media networks. They’re not doing it to “build a brand” because that’s not a thing in the Fediverse. It’s too disjointed to be a place to build a newsletter subscription base.

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[–] fizzbang@lemmy.world 304 points 2 months ago (8 children)

People complain about Lemmy having limited content and engagement. Not in this article so much. I’m sure there were fewer posts in the past too. But what I found is that there are real people on here and you don’t have to wade through bots and shills which makes this community feel much more whole to me.

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I actually like the slower pace. There's no constant stream of content but I find that helps me to moderate my usage. It also helps me take a more active role because I don't just see what I'm subscribed to. I'll hop over to the top posts over the last 6 hours and find something that's really hot elsewhere, or I'll hop on to scaled and find something obscure. It's slower and cranky but it embodies a lot of the old elements of scrolling that I miss.

[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 17 points 2 months ago (36 children)

unless you enter .ml environment...

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[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

People complain about Lemmy having limited content and engagement.

I do. And that's also why if you consciously choose Lemmy as your first line of internet discussion, I encourage you to help build a critical mass to sustain your particular niche or topic.

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[–] jtrek@startrek.website 88 points 2 months ago (9 children)

I really would like to somehow convince more people to adopt the idea that, like, Facebook and friends are run by bad people and you can choose not to use their products. Just stop. Find another way. Be uncomfortable for a little while.

But people aren't up to the challenge.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People are fucking addicted to instagram and I'm the annoying "get rid of that shit" preacher to everyone I can. My gf has reduced her usage, but still checks it from time to time.

I always ask "Do you really need to use it?" - and almost always, their answer is "not really, but it's the only place I can find X". Some of my gf's friends use it to find new places to go. Some of my boardgaming friends still use it, mostly to "know what events are coming up" or what new games are being released.

Instagram is essentially this age's yellow pages of a telephone list, small businesses are super dependent on it and they're forced to post fucking stories everyday or get erased by the algorithm

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 21 points 2 months ago

It's one of those self fueling problems. Businesses post on Instagram because people go there, and people go there in part because that's where they found out about businesses doing stuff.

Better options are possible, but the big money is backing this hell. Less money to be made from RSS feeds , web rings, and email newsletters.

I don't use any social media other than this. I find out about bands I like playing from their email lists or bandsintown. I'm on a couple "things happening in the city" email newsletters. It doesn't demand my attention.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 67 points 2 months ago

See I had forgotten the one golden rule of capitalism. To thrive in capitalism one must be amoral. Now you can be wildly sickeningly successful with morals but you cannot reach that absolute zenith of shareholder value. Either you accept a lower share price and don’t commit atrocities or you become evil. There is no third option.

Spot on.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Even better.

Most instances have human moderation, gating for bots, and yes, and you actually have to take 5-10 minutes to figure out how it all works, so the stupid people are automatically excluded by sheer complexity.

I fucking love Mastodon.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Plenty of stupid people in the fediverse so I dont think we will win any prices for that, guys. And plenty of people who think they are smarter than average, and zero people who think they are dumber than average. The usual stuff.

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[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

It's also one of the most nitpicky whiny places you can visit. A new open source software/update just got released and it does something cool! "Well it's not {x} compliant so it's trash." Or "If a solo developer or a team decides to use 'AI' then their entire project is AI slop."

There are so many moments where I'm like "just shut the fuck up and enjoy the software/news/updates these strangers are providing for free."

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It’s full of leftist purity testing, that’s for sure. And, you can’t say certain things even if they are actually true.

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[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago

This was a great read to start my day, thank you!

[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (9 children)

The Australian Subreddits got overrun by extremist right wing people who tend to be 20x louder than anyone else, and exaggerate everything.

One even reported me for being racist (successfully) despite the fact that the entire time I was fighting back against the racism

Even worse, you now need to log in to even see it at all in a mobile browser. So f that

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I was perma banned for calling someone "A fucking piece of human garbage" as they openly and brazenly advocated for the death of trans people.

I got banned, the person calling for Trans people to be killed did not.

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[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Australian Subreddits got overrun by extremist right wing people who tend to be 20x louder than anyone else, and exaggerate everything.

I don;'t think this is just Australian issue

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[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

FYI, I'm doing it to build a brand.

[–] Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Now please subscribe to my newsletter!

[–] squirrel@cake.kobel.fyi 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The tickets for Fediretreat are selling fast. Grab yours now!

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm so hyped for fedipalooza

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

the only problem is the lack of niche from like in some reddit subs, not main subs, and people there are unlikely to migrate here. plus the bots therer drum all the engagement to get people interested. when an instance vanishes it takes the content with them and i dint see the last one recover from it.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It takes very little effort to open and run a community here, be the change you want to see. :)

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I disagree. It's easy if you want to use a community as your personal blog without any interaction from others. It's hard to get an actual community running.

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[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 26 points 2 months ago

I’m having a blast here.

Not only because it gives you the content that you choose. And there’s no shorts, no ads, …no superfluous bs (god I hate fb, I fucking loathe it).

But also, everything is within reach. The options are within the options. Done.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

People talk a lot about the protocols that power Bluesky vs. ActivityPub, because we're nerds and we believe deep in our hearts that the superior protocol will win. This is adorable. It flies in the face of literally all of human history, where the more convenient thing always wins regardless of technical merit. VHS beat Betamax. USB-C took twenty years.

Hopefully, unlike betamax and laserdisc, the fediverse will trudge on despite the megacorporate protocols

[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you don't need special equipment to use the fediverse, so imo it's unlikely it will "fail"

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[–] JenitalJouster@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

i love lemmy for what it is now. it sadly doesn’t have some communities as active here as reddit may, like stuff for soccer in particular for me, but it’s solid for everything else

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[–] kingblaaak@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

I learnt something new today, cheers

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

And it has not enough users. If the fediverse ever became popular enough to hold significant marketshare, we'd see similar issues. The upside to the fediverse is that you can defederate from misinformation peddlers.

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[–] mapto@masto.bg 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

@ekZepp funny, I thought this is what Google search is nowadays:
"Threads was worthless because it’s the most boring social media website ever imagined. It’s a social media network designed by brands for brands, like if someone made a cable channel that was just advertisements and meta commentary about the advertisements you just saw. Billions of dollars at their disposal and Meta made a hot new social media network with the appeal of junk mail." @matdevdug

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago (11 children)

So here is a stupid question

What exactly is the fediverse? What's included in it? I've hear much about fediverse and Lemmy, but is Lemmy part of it or not? Are other systems like Blue sky a part of it or not? Do I transparently see posts from all those different systems?

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 17 points 2 months ago

What exactly is the fediverse?

Servers that can federate over ActivityPub protocol. Any server that uses ActivityPub can be considered part of the fediverse.

What’s included in it?

Clones of corporate owned sites: twitter (mastodon, misskey), tumblr (wafrn), reddit (lemmy, piefed), facebook (friendica), plus others

I’ve hear much about fediverse and Lemmy, but is Lemmy part of it or not?

Yes, it is

Are other systems like Blue sky a part of it or not?

Bluesky isn't, since they use a different protocol, but it's possible to bridge and interact with it. Wafrn does it.

Do I transparently see posts from all those different systems?

This is the biggest "it depends" situation. For instance, by default, lemmy ignores most posts from mastodon and similars. However, mastodon users can post to lemmy communities if they use the proper @, but they cannot specify a title - their post body will also double as the title. They can also reply to comments, they're easy to spot because they always have an @user when replying.

Some server types integrate the different things better than others. Friendica and Wafrn seem to be the best for "variety integration".

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[–] Furbag@pawb.social 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Good read, but I think the author touched on something that is way more troubling. Sure, you can get reliable information from regular people who are living in other parts of the world, but spreading that information with any kind of veracity is almost impossible due to the collapse in public trust of mainstream media.

If I say something with any degree of authority or confidence, someone in the comments will inevitably chant the ancestral magic spell "Source?!" and suddenly my evidence of a conversation with a stranger on the internet is reduced to merely anecdotal at best. Able to be dismissed outright without thought or care.

However, if I post a link to some legacy media rag, existing in the modern day as a mere husk being puppeteered by corporate oligarchs, wearing the skin of a legitimate and trustworthy news source, the credibility of the information is then called into question by anybody reasonable - knowing full well that right-wing governments have managed to capture most of the remaining independent reporting, or at least have threatened them with who-knows-what in an attempt to influence their press releases that would otherwise paint the government or any of their cronies in a negative light. If someone decides that the provided source doesn't line up with their narrative, it's hilariously easy to attack the reporting itself as being "fake news".

The brain shuts off, and information gets siloed. Objective reality is no longer shared. We are still living in a state of simply believing whatever we want to believe and the few people who are able to break out of that are not going to be influential enough to have an effect on anything. We can pat ourselves on the back for not being a group of people concerned with being brand-builders, I guess, but in the end it's a meaningless victory.

[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Welcome to the post-modern era of truth. Where objective reality doesn't matter, only personal truth and reality. If what you're saying doesn't fit my personal truth, you're using fake news or making it up. Even scientific research is fake news if it doesn't fit my narrative. Just look at who funded the research.

Honestly, idk what we're going to do. It feels like with all the age verification laws being pushed, the mass surveillance, and the quelling of dissenting opinions, the world admins are looking at 1984 as a guidebook. Are we going to get a Ministry of Truth established soon to "verify" what is accurate and what is not?

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