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Teens have access to vastly more potent cannabis than their parents had at their age. Parents need to understand the risks, including psychosis

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

I worked inpatient psych for a long time, and can tell you first-hand the link between psychosis and cannabis is real. No, this does not mean "if you smoke weed you're going to get psychotic!" What it does mean is that if you're someone with a genetic predisposition for schizophrenia (e.g. you have a known family history) weed is a potential trigger for a psychotic episode. If someone has already developed schizophrenia, smoking weed can make their symptoms worse and more difficult to manage with kedications. There is a very small subset of people who should probably never smoke weed.

80% of people coming through the psych hospital, whatever, I don't care if you smoke weed. Honestly, I wish people would smoke weed rather than use meth, K2, or a bunch of other drugs that fuck people up. But for that subset of people prone to psychotic episodes, the conversation centers around "some people can smoke weed and be fine, and you are not one of those people."

The most common ages for men to develop fist episode psychosis are 18-25, and while it's dumb that this article focuses on teenagers, the risk in that age group is genuinely higher. This article really is dumb overall and does not explain any of this well

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me it’s real simple: I talk to my kids about drug use and its negative impact on their growing minds and bodies. Like any growing organism, they need good food, fresh air, plenty of water, and exercise. Smoking, drinking, and drugs do not provide any of that, and all I ask of them is to wait until they are older.

[–] bassad@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago

Still true for adults tho

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Remember not all studies on the health effects of substance use are there to advocate that the substance be made illegal. Smoking as a example is still around and there are countless studies available to the public to make informed decisions.

Substance use should be up to the individual like all choices that can effect you directly, "my body my choice" so to say. All individuals should have access to all knowledge available freely and without prejudice.

Studies on cannabis use becoming more common should be seen as a good thing, as cannabis use has become less taboo and thus easier to study without researcher receiving backlash.

Now you may disagree with some studies, and that is your right. But to advocate against studies related to the substance IMO at least is hypocritical, as it advocates against the very thing that made the substance legal.

I am a non-smoker and have not tried cannabis, but believe people should have the freedom to choose

[–] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm wondering about dosage here, really. As a kid, I smoked weed like maybe once a week but I knew kids who were constantly high all day, every day. We called them "permafried" and some even self-identified that way as a matter of pride.

Hopefully, with further study and research, we can get more information about the actual risk to teens with a variety of usage patterns. Then it's a matter of education so that they're aware of the risk before they're presented with the choice to smoke.

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem is, a bunch of people with very limited drug experience sharing their anecdotal stories isn't evidence. It's just a story.

[–] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm aware of that. We need more study and research, like I said. I'm pro-weed, but we can't make reasonable conclusions about the level of risk involved in teen smoking yet. We just don't know the full extent of any negative effects on developing brains.

I think assessing risk based on consumption makes sense in terms of teens (and young adults too because their brains are still developing) being informed of the level of risk involved in how much they smoke, so that's why I advocated for that.

[–] lovedrugsex@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what would you consider extensive drug experience with cannabis, particularly in the context of minors as to be relevant to the study?

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I think that a scientific study would be a better place to start than anecdotes. Preferably one run by actual research professionals.

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[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This article blows. “Genetically modifying” cannabis for higher THC content? You mean breeding, like every other plant grown for consumption?

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Beware of the gEneTiC MoDifICaTiOn!!!!!!!!!!

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[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it's also not discrediting the post...

You can crossbreed anything till it becomes lethal. This is part of it. If crossbreed beyond reasonable strain? You now have a problem if it enters the market.

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You could smoke a garbage bag full of weed and it wouldn't be lethal. Try again.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk, smoke it all at once and the lack of O2 might kill you through the smoke. But that's not the THCs fault

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[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Oh no! The GMOz!

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Listen, I tell my countrymen all the time: we want to legalize, but only "low grade* to "mid grade". I.e not high grade. We're kind of strict though, almost dry state. Why?

Skunk and the likes have been bred to maximize THC content at the cost of the CBD content. The problem there being that THC is psychoactive and in strong amounts can even be sort of psychedelic, whereas CBD is an antipsychotic that counteracts the negative effecta THC has.

The bigger nut though - and this is the frustrating part - THC can never actually cause psychosis, but can bring out latent psychotic tendencies or be part and parcel of bringing onset psychosis - but a drunken stooper or even an intense run could do that too.

When it comes to high grade tho: do not fuck around with it. If you've never tried cannabis, make sure you don't get a skunk type strain or anything that is deemed "heavy". It's not necessary anyway, it's just a stupid trend between bros to try to out stone or out high each other. "Ooo, I'm the most high! ha ha ha ha"

It's been an arms race between breeder for decades now regarding maximizing THC content, but let me just say gtfo here with that noise. Give me a working man's spliff any day, thank you very much. We're supposed to function as well.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (19 children)

That’s fine to have your own opinion but don’t restrict my rights to grow the stickiest of the icky. Sometimes I want to roast a fat joint and be functional. Sometimes I just want to sleep without toking for a half hour. One hit shit absolutely has its place, and with accurate labeling, you can be the judge.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

And many that aren't! Ornamental, like flowers, are also bred for hardiness or to look pretty!

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

he had had persistent delusions for more than six months. Sam was fully convinced that the government was following him and constantly surveilling him

That's not a delusion tho.

[–] Zippygutterslug@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The government probably is surveilling them.

https://dnyuz.com/2025/04/30/this-is-what-we-were-always-scared-of-doge-is-building-a-surveillance-state/

Also, anecdotes are not evidence unless you've got a brain worm.

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[–] Flemmy@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's totally not the potency of natural cannabis. It is the user's lifestyle and world around him/her. Like how shrooms are banned because not everybody reads the recommended dosage and somebody on reddit already posted about taking a kilogram of dried shrooms, your eyes will look like cherries.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You know, I'm not really interested in a long anecdote about Sam and his father. It doesn't add any real information.
I had hoped to read about the actual evidence.

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[–] gcheliotis@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

This shouldn’t be controversial. It’s been known for about a decade now if not longer.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everybody should use a flower vaporizer like G Pen. Clean hits, low dose, and none of the crap that’s in concentrates.

Compared to what I even had when I was a kid as a millennial, these vape pens are wild. Dabbing all the time. It’s like casually taking shots of alcohol. There is such thing as marijuana abuse and even addiction.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In some cases, people are using medical marijuana. It's strange to point out someone else's frequency of medication usage throughout the day, don't ya think? Having the ease of a vape cart is no reason to be worried. Know your dosage and stick to it.

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[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

G pens are okay, pax are okay. Honestly they are all very mid in comparison to the Airizer products. The air max I have or whatever its called is the closest flower vape Ive ever had to smoking, easiest to use and clean, and I beat the shit out of it smoking multiple times a day and it still works great after almost two years

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