Can't wait for them to push Gruesome Newsom on us and tell us to take it. I'll be honest, I'll probably abstain at that point, I'm not voting another fascist in.
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Considering my state will go to conservatives no matter who I vote for, I'm just gonna keep voting third party for whoever the leftmost candidate I can find is that's at least write in eligible.
Pointing that out before the 2024 elections on lemmy caused many witch hunts and attacks from those amazed anyone could possibly consider not voting dem.
Evolution is a tricky concept -- all that incremental improvement.
Except a vote for newsom is also for what 5 steps backwards as he's fully on board for most of the GOP platform?
Incrementalism in politics moves rights, never left
Incrementally moving right isn't an improvement.
Oh look, it’s the Genocide Joe squad that got us into this fucking mess.
If only progressives were as good at voting in primaries as we are at snarky memes...
If progressives knew how to count votes manually, then we would be having a very different comment thread.
One cannot have a democracy where the results are announced and believed in blind faith. Which happens more than not
These sorts of conspiracies are so delightfully silly. You have to believe that there's one level of incompetent DNC leadership that has their emails leaked, loses in court but behind and above that is a secret cabal of highly competent DNC staff who also didn't have their emails hacked who also manage to coordinate and operate a massive set of electoral fraud across some 30 or 40 different states, all without a whiff of evidence all of which simultaneously either completely contradicts the exit polling OR also involves most major news outlets while never being leaked...
It's just an amazing example of wishful thinking, on the same level of plausibility as microchips in the vaccines.
If you go ahead and list all the safeguards and double checks of any computer voting of the state of your choice. I think if you try to do this in good faith you will quickly realize that there are many unknowns. Or you will realize you have to simply accept you are out of your depth of knowledge. This applies to red and blue states. In the end, you have to take it on faith things are proper.
The fact that one can count votes and in a way all can be satisfied about, like in the Uk or France, simply is ignored. Indeed, once someone has faith in the process, these details are not important.
And this is not just a few people in the thread here, who have strong faith in the computer voting, it’s a political wall that stops all progress.
completely contradicts the exit polling
National use of exit polling, by media companies, to predict federal races, stopped a few years ago because it was too inaccurate. However many do not know that.
Before that, there was a lot of talk about American exceptionalism and shy republican voters who were too embarrassed to admit they voted for the gop. A phenomenon that is not seen in other countries who also have similar parties.
This discussion went out of fashion when exit poll predictions stopped. Most people don’t even know what they are now.
You might look at any of the dozens dumb lawsuits filed by trump in the wake of the 2020 election...
Trump was very careful to make baseless accusations without proof and make things as ridiculous as possible.
His actions severely hurt the efforts in some states to remove election machines and replace them with hand counted ballots such as Virginia did.
Notice he did nothing constructive in his sabotage; he could have easily promoted more transparent vote counts. Instead he attacked mail in ballots, which are very reliably counted.
I was very much invested in promoting hand counted ballots during that time, so I saw the effects. It was very sad.
I’m not sure if you are aware, but most of the discrepancies were absolutely harming democratic races in senate, house and presidential general elections; and in the gop primaries.
Which is why I said, if progressives were able to see this as an issue, the gop would have never won control of the presidency or congress the last 10 years or more.
But it’s not much a discussion in politics
Honestly, like I said earlier, these conspiracy theories don't match up to basic common sense.
Now you're arguing that trump is actually in on this conspiracy but is sneaky enough to have never mentioned it etc.
It just gets mind boggling silly at this point.
Ah yes, I should have voted in the primary we totally had for Kamala! Or that one right before that one that totally happened with just Biden on the ticket! That was clearly my bad. Maybe I'll have two choices next time and I'll vote extra hard, just for you.
Or in a state that's either too early or too late in the cycle for the dnc to care about when it comes to primary and cacuse results.
My state has our primaries in fucking AUGUST. Nobody gives a shit about us.
The DNC doesn't want to rule. They want to profit off the corruption, while they bitch and moan about it. The only thing that can save America is an independent, but Americans are too divided to ever see straight and leave their L/R silos.
The two party system will do that.