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[โ€“] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago

I have been waiting for SEGA to make Persona 5 and SMT 5 DRM-free for many years now. IIRC, Persona 5 Royal was $10 a week ago...but still DRM'ed.

Fuck it. I might as well just pirate these things and not give SEGA a dime. They clearly don't want my money, nor respect my desire to be free of rootkits, restrictions, or surveillance. I just want to buy my games and play. ๐Ÿ˜’

[โ€“] Mwa@thelemmy.club 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

why do people still play/buy games with Denuvo,it reduces your fps anyways.
maybe Denuvo is as bad as Kernel level anticheat.

[โ€“] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Because modern gaming community believes in ultra-consumerism. "Just buy a $3000 PC to run your $70 AAAA games every 3 years like the rest of us."

[โ€“] Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't forget the โ‚ฌ8000 gaming chair, and โ‚ฌ4000 custom made in-ear headphones.

[โ€“] Comet79@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

And the EA game pass, so you can pay to own nothing.

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[โ€“] smeg@feddit.uk 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd guess most players aren't even aware. I play a lot of games (though probably none that have this stuff enabled) and before joining Lemmy I'd never even heard of Denuvo. The average user just buys a game and plays it.

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[โ€“] TipRing@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I certainly hope Denuvo steps on something pointy, but there's no way I'm installing an HV bypass on any machine.

[โ€“] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That shit does not run on Linux, so I guess I'm in luck. I bet Denuvo is doubling down and adding kernel level DRM to all games. Bit worried about what that means for Linux gaming, but I will survive. I've been on Linux for like a decade now, I won't install windows to play some silly games.

[โ€“] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That shit does not run on Linux

Do you mean Denuvo games in general? Because that's not true

they mean the hypervisor bypass, which at the moment requires windows and turning off basically every security feature

[โ€“] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Playing it on a Windows VM on Linux with your GPU passed through is probably the safest way to play these hypervisor bypass games.

[โ€“] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, an OS that runs a HV that runs a HV that runs an OS that runs a translator that translates a windows-game to the original OS.

If you had told me that absurd shit 30yrs ago I would have laughed at you.

[โ€“] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, and all that to bypass, not remove, a protection mechanism that runs 100% in user space with no additional privileges. It really would be impressive if it wasn't so horrible for consumer rights and preservation.

[โ€“] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is...I always trusted pirates more than companies (I was a big player back in the days) but this is way too much. I just don't play these games now (thanks denuvo) and I surely won't play those hv-"cracks".

But...the worse thing is what denuvo will do now. Either they'll vanish or they'll step up by getting absolute total control kernel-side. I'd prefer vanishing. Why would anyone buy denuvo now if they don't react fast...

[โ€“] upandatom@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agreed. I expect some money shifting where Denuvo goes down and another rises with kernel level. Ovuned. Kind of like how airlines and banks rename themselves.

[โ€“] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Well, let's just hope that we're wrong on this.

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[โ€“] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The HV bypass is a blow to both the industry and piracy. All games are easy to pirate now, but aint no way I'm messing with my machine so much just to pirate those games.

[โ€“] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Games are already a security nightmare. Apex had an RCE in a game with fucking kernel level anticheat.

Fucking think about that.

If you care about privacy or security you should've started playing games in a VM with pass through years ago.

If it doesn't run in a VM it doesn't get played.

[โ€“] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

98% of gamers dont even understand what you saod here

[โ€“] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I don't think the situation is practically any worse than before for piracy if you just ignore these bypasses. It's not like there was a huge crowd of crackers ready to take on denuvo before they were pushed out by these bypasses. Proper cracks still depend on basically just that one guy.

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[โ€“] Squizzy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] TipRing@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (11 children)

It's the bypass in question that falsifies validation data to the Denuvo DRM. It runs under the OS (Windows in this case), which gives it more permissions than your operating system itself. You have to disable a significant amount of your security, reboot, run your game with the HV bypass, reenable your security, reboot, and then you can use your PC normally again. Even if you trust the HV bypass software (and I don't personally think that's a good idea), you are still opening your machine up to attack. If you are perfect in your actions and very cautious you can minimize the risk, but slipping up could leave your PC compromised. It's just too much risk.

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[โ€“] ceenote@lemmy.world 87 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Huh. I guess they'll play the games now?

[โ€“] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 122 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I have stacks of 1-1.5 tb sd cards in a holder on my steam deck case because I can never delete a game but I don't have time to play them either.

[โ€“] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Remember to power them once in a while since the stored charge slowly leaks.

[โ€“] Zoot@reddthat.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How often is once in a while cause fuuuuuuck....

[โ€“] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Like once every few years at least. More often if they are cheap or if the cells have been rewritten a lot.

[โ€“] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have them in a leak-proof holder.

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[โ€“] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Ugh, if I have to.

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[โ€“] CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

I played RE9 recently thanks to voices38 crack.

Even the achievements were working, insane experience for something pirated.

It's not the same convenience of Steam, but you can achieve similar:

  • I used a PowerShell script with rclone + Ludosavi backup to backup all my game saves periodically.
  • Add to Steam as non-Steam game to get controller support, screenshot and recording features.
  • And Hydra launcher (or Achievement Watcher) to save my played hours and get achievements notifications.

Pro: You actually own your data instead of Steam owing it. All tools are open source and you can backup the database files.
Cons: Less convenience.

Already 100% all achievements.

[โ€“] Sebastrion@leminal.space 3 points 1 day ago

If you have a server to Self Host stuff, you can also use Gamevault. It's like steam but Selfhost. You can Backup your Save Files onto your Server (you need to modify the Open Source Client for that, otherwise it's behind a Paywall.) It tracks your Playtime. You can install .7zip files, iso's and gog games very simple. You can also see what your friends are playing, if you share your Server.

I also love it to collect fan games in it like PokeMMO, Mario 64 PC Port etc.

[โ€“] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

These bypasses work differently and require you to load unsigned drivers.

[โ€“] CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Ik, but RE9 was one of the few games cracked properly. That and Black Myth Wukong today.

Given the rate voices38 is doing it, I dare to say he's cracking all the rest, he probably figured out something at this point, just need to reapply the same skills on different Denuvo games.

[โ€“] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So the Empress has fallen?

Empress only cracked a select few games anyway (and I believe she tired of it like a year or two ago?)

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[โ€“] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Playing a game for free is not even remotely worth allowing a bypass to have absolute root access, but maybe this will make companies reconsider whether it's worth paying for Denuvo. Probably not.

[โ€“] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 days ago

Is it better or worse than letting the game have absolute root access? Because that'll no doubt be what Denuvo goes with next...

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