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[–] stankcheez@lemmy.world 115 points 3 months ago (1 children)

possibly the worst Supreme Court decision ever handed down - and there are a whole shitload of awful SC decisions - strictly b/c it was immediately apparent to anyone with two brain cells to rub together how it would enable and entrench corruption and influence in American politics

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

possibly the worst Supreme Court decision ever handed down

Perhaps, but you're going up against the classics. Dred Scott. Plessy v. Ferguson. Korematsu.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also, Citizens United was only the latest in a long series of bad decisions that gradually elevated sociopathic artificial entities over natural persons.

  • Dartmouth College v Woodward
  • Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad
  • Dodge v Ford Motor Co.

etc.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

decisions that gradually elevated sociopathic artificial entities over natural persons.

Yeesh. Not sure if I'm just naive for not really putting 2+2 together before reading your comment, or overly paranoid about how dystopian scifi the future might get from here?

But I never really thought about the laws that were used to elevate corporations over natural persons possibly foreshadowing a future that's controlled by something that's somehow even more ominous and artificial that these corporations are currently racing to create.

I have to say in 2026 I'm leaning more towards me just being naive because corporations are themselves a byproduct of a society obsessed with using technique as a means to achieve the most efficient end.

And at this point, I'm also pretty sure that while most rational humans hear alarm bells and see clear premonitions of dystopia when they hear a question like "What could possibly be more efficient than a world where all human imperfections have ceased to exist?," the sociopaths running these corporations believe they're ushering in paradise like priest Crystal.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 54 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let's turn that could be into an is

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

Turn them into was/were.

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’ll believe it when I see it

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago

yeah it is the absolutely biggest improvement that could be made (outside of ousting the current administration) but I can't see it being done currently.

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Citizens United will be remembered as that one time John Roberts accidentally destroyed the United States because of his hubris. A really cool dude, that John Roberts.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It wasn't an accident. There's a great podcast called 5-4 that has gone through some of the worst decisions in history. They talked about Citizens United, and how Roberts had to stretch the truth to come to that decision. He's done that a lot, he does the Roberts two-step, when he first upholds a law that he doesn't like, but makes up some shit about how there are "questions" about it, and then his allies in the broader Conservative movement then bring a lawsuit that specifically targets one of those "questions" so that Roberts can overturn the law.

Thomas does something similar, except it's even more egregious, he will write an unhinged dissent or concurrence that makes bonkers legal arguments that may or may not be fully related to the case at hand, and then when he's up to write for the majority, he'll cite his own arguments in those dissents and concurrences. Those documents have zero legal weight, but he cites them as if they were settled law.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

It's crazy to me that there isn't some kind of scientific review process when they write these things up. Formal logic has been worked out for centuries and you can just look at the math to confirm what they're saying makes any sense at all.

It wouldn't solve all problems but some of these recent rulings are so divorced from reality that they've left logic in the dust.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Actually, one of the many times John Roberts ~~accidentally~~ purposely destroyed the United States because of his hubris.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The best argument for time travel is our ancestors somehow already knew a toilet should be called "the John."

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

I was gonna say Clarence Thomas is building a larger garage for all the RVs he’s getting to proclaim Citizens is here to stay.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

They'll probably replace it with something even worse

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

It would be a massive win for all of us peons just trying to survive while our gov actively tries to kill us.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago

You can’t end citizens united without first overturning Buckley v Valeo

If we do this, please don’t half ass it.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No politician would ever vote against getting unlimited and legal slush funds

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

A couple would.

But yes not most

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Pitchforks & Molotov coctails can be very motivating to representatives

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Liberty comes at the end of a gun.

They'll never give it to you. You have to take it.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is someone handing out drugs? There is no way that is happening. Not without massive legislation and likely some convictions.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Your scenario is rather optimistic, honestly.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Doesn’t it, though.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Im gonna call this now.

If on some chance the supreme court strikes down SpeechNow because of this, they'll somehow stay it until after the next general election as its "too soon" and "too hard" to change it now.

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 9 points 3 months ago

Too late, hope it was worth it fuckers

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I think it's too late. The damage worldwide is irreversible.

Yes! Holy shit if we could see citizens United overturned it would be fucking huge. Like a reverse of thinking they would never see Roe v. Wade overturned in their lifetime.

This always seemed like such a distant dream, and not like it being overturned would just magically undo all the other evil shit Citizens United has helped accomplish, but it definitely would be a very big step towards restoring and improving democracy.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Shit we occupied nearly every city in the country demanding this, and we couldn't get it then

[–] daannii@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So I have mixed feelings.

So obviously it's a bad thing. But. Because it's now legal to bribe. We know who is getting bribed easily.

Once it becomes illegal again it's going to be harder to know who is getting bribed.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If only it were legal, bank robbers wouldn’t have to wear masks. Then we would know who’s doing it.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think I have been misunderstood. I should have said. The silver lining is now we see clearly how many politicians are sellouts. And we know their names.

I definitely think Citizens United was one of the worst things that happened to this country.

I only remark that now we know something we didn't know before. We suspected. But now we literally have receipts.

I worded my first comment poorly.