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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Already tired of seeing this cool car and now I’m already seeing more “fuck car” articles and post; as well as countries wanting to limit cars on the road. Something is at foot

[–] PacMan@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Glad someone has the balls to produce a truck people actually want. Give me power windows, locks, radio, cruise and a cheap radio and I am fine. I guess I throw in 4x4 because I live in Colorado.

I would love to also see an ice or a hybrid version of this truck too. This is exactly want so many people are wanting right now. Very excited to see this EV when it hits the road

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

This is like the electric version of the bare-bones Toyota ICE pickup

[–] zulfiqaramer@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago

I swear, there's a massive opportunity in the market for robust and inexpensive products.

Stop making shit as 'thin' as possible. Stop adding a bunch of nonsense just to drive up the price.

Keep it simple. Keep it basic. Do one thing and do it well.

[–] ArchaicHuman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s backed by Bezos. Wouldn’t even consider it for that reason alone.

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[–] Uranus_Hz@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know, I like the design. If I can take a wrench to it and customise it or repair broken stuff easily and for cheap, even better.

The range is kinda meh, but for working in remote sites, bringing a diesel generator is already par for the course, and that bed looks like it fits a lot of stuff.

No stereo sucks though.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I often drive long distances for work, and I NEVER listen to the radio. All my listening is through headphones off my phone. I even keep a spare pair charging at all times. Not only does it sound a million times better than any crappy car system, it's far easier to take phone calls. I hate holding my phone while driving. It's also easier to hear the map navigation lady.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

What the fuck?! Why would you ever drive with headphones?

Driving with headphones is illegal in most, if of not all of Europe, for what I though were rather obvious reasons...

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All my listening [in my car] is through headphones off my phone.

This is unsafe at best. Illegal at worst.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Nonsense, how is it either?

Too loud? I'm a musician, I value my hearing, so I don't play anything too loud. I always use earbuds, so I can always hear emergency vehicles. Besides, I've heard plenty of car speaker systems that were loud enough to block out sirens easily.

Illegal? In what way? In states that have banned holding phones, they encourage hands-free phone calls. If speaking on the phone is considered a distraction, then why isn't speaking to another passenger, or listening to music? Both would be just as distracting as a hands free call. Modern cars all connect to a cell phone automatically, and take calls through the speaker system. If it's illegal, then why are car companies allowed to install them as standard equipment? I don't use that system only because I like the audio quality of my ear buds far more.

By your logic, sound systems and phones in cars should just be totally illegal.

Edit: Wow, I thought there were a lot of judgemental old ladies on Reddit, I expected less on Lemmy. Time to ban sound systems and passengers because we can't have anybody getting the slightest bit distracted. I don't know what the problem is anyway, in my city, the traffic is so bad at any tine of the day, that nobody can drive over 25 mph, even on the highway.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Headphones are considered like ear plugs. A tendency to block out surrounding noises like horns and sirens.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I use earbuds, not headphones, but use the terms interchangeably. I don't have any problems hearing emergency vehicles. If you are using them so loudly you can't hear sirems, then you are going to go deaf soon anyway, and by your logic, deaf people shouldn't be allowed to drive, right?

And whether you can hear properly or not, it's still not illegal.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Looks like it's illegal in 17 states, some with various exemptions for using a single earbud either for anything or for select purposes only.

Depending on the earbud/phone design, even if off they can really reduce your ability to hear the world. Sure playing an open stereo too loud can have a similar effect, but it's much easier to drown out things when your ear is stuffed or fully covered, without some sort of audio passthrough system.

[–] pahlimur@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

In most states that don't have specific laws about them its considered distracted driving. I wouldn't wear them because it opens you up to legal scrutiny if you do fuck up while driving. Insurance will throw you under the bus the moment they can prove you had headphones on.

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[–] CMonster@discuss.online 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your car just has a shitty sound system in it. That experience is in no way representative of most vehicles. I drive almost 200 miles a day.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I spent much of my career in the music business, with a significant portion in the audiophile audio business. ALL car stereo systems are a shitty compromise to real high quality audio.

[–] CMonster@discuss.online 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used to have a 2006 Dakota quad cab with a better sound system than most living rooms. There is a reason car audio is a giant market. I can't even take you seriously.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (14 children)

It's a giant market because people spend a lot of money on it, mostly being loud. Loud is not the same as high quality sound.

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[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

No stereo is fine if it has ports for me to just buy my own car stereo kit and add it afterwards. I don't see the point of no paint, like don't you need it to protect the metal from the environment

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago

Make it 10k-12k and it would be a yes if parts and repair ability were guaranteed for 10 years.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Paywalled.

Anyone got a battery range on this vehicle?

[–] lijygred@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

150 miles per charge

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The msrp of this truck is $28000. For having nothing in it that is absurd. Not to mention the rebates put it at 20k but you still have to pay upfront which deters most people from getting. Overall shit truck, shit design, shit price.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fucking FINALLY.

I've been waiting for a small pickup like the old 90s 4-banger Toyota. And this is electric, simple for function, and actually affordable?

Capitalists must be seething. If it doesnt have leather interior, 19 speaker surround sound, and cost 80k, get it out of our country! /s

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[–] HBK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

As an FYI, (In the United States) all modern cars will have to have some kind of screen (whether built in the mirror, on the dash, or as part of the gauge system) as all cars are required to have backup cameras as of 2018.

Starting in 2029 all cars will be required to have automatic braking technology as well.

We're never going to be able to purchase new cars that are completely dumbed down ever again, but with how many lives it will save I'd say it's worth it.

I'm glad that there are some companies that are willing to offer cars with the bare minimum of features at least. I personally would prefer having automatic windows over crank, but if someone wants to save money more power(har har) to them!

EDIT: weather vs whether Braking vs breaking

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It is a legal requirement now to have back up cameras. This thing also doesn't have any airbags, or seatbelts in the back when converted. There is nothing connected to the HVAC controls, you would need a heater box. They haven't even bothered with a plywood mock interrior is all just 3D printed garbage, literally falling apart in the reviewers hands.

The Chinese have tried this approach for low volume projects with a space frame and bonded plastic and carbon fibre panels, but its just too labour intensive to be practical for any sort of volume. The space frame still has to be painted, so you don't save any money in a painting setup.

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[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s no radio, no Bluetooth, and no speakers of any kind beyond for those required to play basic warning chimes.

Many will consider this a cost-cutting step too far, but the interior was designed for ease of upgrading, with easy mounting space for anything from a simple soundbar to a full sound system.

There’s an integrated phone mount right on the dashboard, but there’s nothing stopping you from bringing something even larger. I expect the low-cost Android tablet and 3D-printing communities to have a field day coming up with in-car media streaming solutions.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is 100% it.

All I want is a modular car system. Everything modular. Dashboard. Body panels. Whatever. I want 3+ cars possible on one frame, and to not need anything more than basic tools to swap parts around.

[–] demunted@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gm said they'd build a sled drivetrain that they could just plop bodies on top of but that never happened sadly.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wonder why? Seems to me like a money printing machine for them, the factory and non- factory repair shops and the aftermarket.

Unless it's seen as a way to hide your car from illegal activities, which well now that I think about it is probably the reason they didn't follow through with the idea.

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[–] ramsgrl909@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am excited, this is what my husband and I have been waiting for - a regular vehicle with no bells and whistles just to raise the price

[–] Tillman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fun fact, this isn’t $20K but that’s what it takes to get people, to share the article. The actual arrival says that it’s $20K after government rebates in the US. So it’s actually expensive without tax dollars.

[–] TBi@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder how much petrol/diesel would cost if the government didn’t subsidise it. And if they were actually held liable for oil spills.

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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

"No touchscreen" is a really great selling point imo

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