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I live in a socialist society, so basically everything is free. I don’t need money, so what’s to stop me from saying “fuck you” to my family and community, since I don’t have to work? I just want to party, sleep around, do drugs, and drink alcohol 24/7. I don’t want to work or help anyone that’s not me. What happens?

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[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That isn't what socialism is. Socialism is laborer ownership over the means of production. If you don't labor, you aren't a laborer.

Communism would be more tolerant of the lifestyle you suggest, but social pressure gets enough people to contribute that the occasional person who legitimately doesn't want to help anyone with anything won't destroy the society.

[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

This hits the nail in the head.

I have a friend who grew up in the USSR. From what she's told me, the social pressure around pulling your weight can't be overstated.

For example, her school uniform had a scarf, and the punishment for most offences (being late, not doing homework etc) was to have your scarf taken away for a day or two. Instead of being trapped in detention away from everyone after school, you had to spend the day publicly marked out as someone who's let the side down. You'd spend the day subjected to disapproving looks, and then when you got home have to explain to your parents why you had your scarf taken away.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is this a real question? What socialist economy do you live in where “everything is free“?

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They are obviously speaking hypothetically and not from practical experience

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

It sounds to me like a troll sort of thing, like how conservatives in the US frequently say that liberals and leftists “just want everything for free“.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Don’t you work at Sonic in the extremely capitalist USA?

Guessing you’re a young person without much money playing devil’s advocate about why couldn’t we have a real social safety net like most developed countries.

Next time drop the act.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 months ago

Your question employs a false right-wing premise. When your needs are taken care of, you won't want to be high all day. The desire to work or contribute to a greater cause is endemic to our species.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You grow up, if youre lucky.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago

Let's hope OP grows up.

[–] Arcanoloth@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

You get thrown into Jail as an "anti-social element" (There's an important distinction between "unable to work" and "unwilling to work", both meaning "work" as in "contributing labor to the well-being of your fellow humans"). Also: You clearly don't know anything about socialism beyond right-wing delusions.

[–] mwhj28@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

That sounds like a recipe for homelessness to me.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You are used as an example to usher in a right wing capitalist dictatorship.

"Look at this lazy useless fuck. Socialism makes people like him!"

...that's how it starts.

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You don't really have to exist though. Any rw demagogue worth their salt can whip up a decent amount of fear of and anger towards imaginary freeloaders without any in reality.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Not about you though. It's them using you to rile up others.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Those that don't work dont eat

[–] Pherenike@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

If what draws you to family and community is money/the need to work, you're probaby a sociopath, regardless of the type of society you live in

(Although you're basically describing a capitalist mindset in a -wildly inaccurate- "socialist" society, which would be wrong to begin with)

[–] Eczpurt@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I'd imagine there is some sort of minimum contribution? Or perhaps "eviction" from the group in the event of degeneracy. I can't see a society running on an "everything is free, do what you like" mentality.

[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ask your older family members. They've probably seen what happens.

I saw a public housing block in Romania, where people don't have to pay, and what is provided is not a huge improvement from being homeless. You have a concrete apartment, but there's no heat or electricity unless you pay for it. There's a benefits office that will make sure food is available to you, but you're definitely not getting name brand or getting to choose what you want to eat. The area around them was blighted and isolated- no community playground, parks, or shopping areas like a typical neighborhood. The community's medical needs were addressed by pop-up clinics run out of a van. It was definitely not a situation anyone would've chosen to be in if they cared about themselves.

[–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 months ago

The area around them was blighted and isolated- no community playground, parks, or shopping areas like a typical neighborhood. The community’s medical needs were addressed by pop-up clinics run out of a van

This also completely applies to areas of USA with less population density. Even for people with jobs.

Remote Area Medical (RAM) is a nonprofit provider of mobile medical clinics delivering free dental, vision, and medical care (as well as veterinary services when available) to under-served and uninsured individuals.

Founded by British philanthropist Stan Brock, it was originally conceived to treat people in the developing world, but turned its attention to those in need of health care in the United States